Dscore20
Joined: Aug 17, 2016
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Oct 03, 2023 - 13:52 |
 
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Specifically: does the foul action granted from pile driver result in the player not getting sent off on a roll of doubles on the armor break via sneaky git?
I thought they did stack for the longest time, but now I'm second-guessing myself. |
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Sp00keh
Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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Oct 03, 2023 - 14:43 |
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I think previously they might have contradicted each other as to if you could move after the foul...
Pile Driver said No because you were Prone
Sneaky Git said Yes - but now it's a No as well
Otherwise, Sneaky should still stop you getting sent off on a roll of doubles on the armor break, after your foul Action.
Pile Driver being the source of the foul Action doesn't change that imo |
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Carthage
Joined: Mar 18, 2021
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Oct 03, 2023 - 17:38 |
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Yeah thats right, ive seen some players with that combo and the sneaky git will act as normal on the pile driver foul. Sp00keh is right, that previously, you couldn't move because PD put you prone.
Unfortunately most characters that can get pile driver and sneaky git both are the exact players you don't want being sent off.
Really highlights why pile driver is so weak... Your foulers are typically the cheapest, weakest players. Pile driver needs to be on a character good for blitzing for it to be activated, which is usually one of your strongest, most powerful characters otherwise you won't be able to knock anyone down to pile drive. |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Oct 03, 2023 - 18:11 |
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Jopotzuki
Joined: Oct 07, 2011
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Oct 03, 2023 - 22:44 |
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Your vampire is irrelevant, because it has committed 0 fouls. |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Oct 03, 2023 - 22:47 |
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Thank you 
I need to play them I guess. |
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MrCushtie
Joined: Aug 10, 2018
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Oct 03, 2023 - 23:16 |
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Funnily enough, BB3 currently has Sneaky Git not working with Pile Driver at all, so if you play here and there, it may be get confusing. I assume that's because Pile Driver involves you going prone and losing skills, but if so, the BB3 implementation is a misinterpretation of action order, as the Pile Driver skill says you go prone after fouling (at which point you lose access to most skills, including Sneaky Git). Maybe that's because it's not explicit when you went prone when using Piling On in LRB6, whereas it's explicit in 2020 and the coder just thought they were doing it the right way.
So as you're not prone when you foul, Sneaky Git could be used to prevent you being sent off on a double armour roll, but as you are prone when you've finished fouling, Sneaky Git could not be used to allow you to move after the foul (at least prior to the May 2023 FAQ). |
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mrt1212
Joined: Feb 26, 2013
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Oct 04, 2023 - 00:19 |
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| Carthage wrote: | Yeah thats right, ive seen some players with that combo and the sneaky git will act as normal on the pile driver foul. Sp00keh is right, that previously, you couldn't move because PD put you prone.
Unfortunately most characters that can get pile driver and sneaky git both are the exact players you don't want being sent off.
Really highlights why pile driver is so weak... Your foulers are typically the cheapest, weakest players. Pile driver needs to be on a character good for blitzing for it to be activated, which is usually one of your strongest, most powerful characters otherwise you won't be able to knock anyone down to pile drive. |
It's for those weirdos that will take a random Strength skill and hit Pile Driver and then have Agility access to select Sneaky Git. There's maybe a half dozen at most who would even qualify and they usually have a thousand better things to do than that. |
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Carthage
Joined: Mar 18, 2021
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Oct 04, 2023 - 00:41 |
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Yeah when a skill is only good when a goblin randoms into it, otherwise its never selected, its not a very good skill. |
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