Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Aug 29, 2024 - 23:51 |
 
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Amazons need a rewrite. Nothing has changed there |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Aug 29, 2024 - 23:52 |
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Yes, they do. The problem is their Dodge spam, not the Chorfs' Tackle spam removal. |
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spinball
Joined: Jul 01, 2004
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Aug 30, 2024 - 00:40 |
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The only way the flamers will actually "be good" is if the flaming is an extra ability that can be used after a move, block or blitz. Even then it will not be great, just offer options |
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Nightbird
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 30, 2024 - 01:57 |
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This release really makes one wonder if this assures
that High Elves & Tomb Kings will be in the new boxed set  |
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Jayward
Joined: Dec 22, 2020
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Aug 30, 2024 - 10:27 |
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Or Tomb Kings and Bretonnians to match the Old World release?
(Yeah, I know, Bretonnians were replaced by Nobility... Look, I really want a team of knights!) |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Aug 30, 2024 - 11:11 |
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| spinball wrote: | | The only way the flamers will actually "be good" is if the flaming is an extra ability that can be used after a move, block or blitz. Even then it will not be great, just offer options |
You can use it as part of a Blitz action, but really. It's just a gimmick... but you'll have to take the players, just so you have higher Av in your team.. I wonder if they'll have block? |
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Endrophil
Joined: Nov 16, 2015
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Aug 30, 2024 - 13:52 |
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ST 5 flamesmiths, 0-4.  |
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Nightbird
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Aug 30, 2024 - 20:15 |
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Lammasu: 6/5/3+/-/10+ S/AG
Claws, Unchanneled Fury, Horns, Leap, Pogostick, Iron Hard Skin, Loner
170k?
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smeborg
Joined: Jan 04, 2019
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Aug 31, 2024 - 08:08 |
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| spinball wrote: | | The only way the flamers will actually "be good" is if the flaming is an extra ability that can be used after a move, block or blitz. Even then it will not be great, just offer options |
If I understand the skill correctly (as worded by GW), it appears quite situational, e.g.:
- It would work considerably better than an uphill block in most circumstances (assuming the player being blocked is not ST5+);
- It would work better than a single die block in some circumstances (ditto);
- It might work better than a block in situations where you need to bring down a player, but want to leave that player in the square where they are; and
- It is a bit of a gamble, suggesting that it might work better when you have RRs to burn.
I look forward to seeing how the skill is used in practical play. It seems to bring new (and dynamic) options (as well as potential headaches for the oppo coach). |
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Sp00keh
Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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Aug 31, 2024 - 09:56 |
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I dunno why they put such risk into it, or why it has the penalty against str5
It could have just been Stab, but GW can’t help themselves but must make new complicated rules for everything they release now, for some reason |
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MerryZ
Joined: Nov 28, 2005
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Aug 31, 2024 - 10:04 |
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Kids like new complicated rules |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Aug 31, 2024 - 11:12 |
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Jayward
Joined: Dec 22, 2020
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Aug 31, 2024 - 11:48 |
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Yeah, it's a bit rubbish. Breathe Fire could have been projectile vomit, My Ball is basically Animosity (-)... Was Khorne the last team released without a new rule?
In 40k the rule that everyone calls 'Sticky Objectives' has 9 or 10 different names with near identical wording. It's just needless complexity. |
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Decksign
Joined: Mar 25, 2016
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Aug 31, 2024 - 12:09 |
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| Sp00keh wrote: | I dunno why they put such risk into it, or why it has the penalty against str5
It could have just been Stab, but GW can’t help themselves but must make new complicated rules for everything they release now, for some reason |
Knocking down or placing prone a ST5 on a 4+ is too strong, especially if any other player with the same strength would need assists to do the same or has only 25% chance when going to -2D (also the fail chance is lower for breathing flames).
The biggest fear of coaches playing a big guy is to have their big guy fall on the ground and be useless. |
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NiozeH
Joined: Mar 09, 2021
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Aug 31, 2024 - 12:51 |
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| Decksign wrote: | | Sp00keh wrote: | I dunno why they put such risk into it, or why it has the penalty against str5
It could have just been Stab, but GW can’t help themselves but must make new complicated rules for everything they release now, for some reason |
Knocking down or placing prone a ST5 on a 4+ is too strong, especially if any other player with the same strength would need assists to do the same or has only 25% chance when going to -2D (also the fail chance is lower for breathing flames).
The biggest fear of coaches playing a big guy is to have their big guy fall on the ground and be useless. |
Brother against ST5 isn't 50%. It is 5+ |
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