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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005
Post   Posted: Aug 11, 2024 - 17:25 Reply with quote Back to top
Drrek wrote:
Sp00keh wrote:
I don't get why you're trying to police this


While I don't think this particular implementation would be good, when coaches are jerks to other coaches, especially new ones on a site where new coaches already lose a lot, it can drive them away. If we can nake the site friendlier, that is a good thing.


They can come to 145 Club Smile

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Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011
Post   Posted: Aug 11, 2024 - 18:25 Reply with quote Back to top
Sure, but they don't always know that. Or, if they're experienced at playing elsewhere, it may not be appropriate.
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005
Post   Posted: Aug 11, 2024 - 20:34 Reply with quote Back to top
Nelphine wrote:
Sure, but they don't always know that. Or, if they're experienced at playing elsewhere, it may not be appropriate.


Make sure that you tell 'em. Very Happy

I suspect that Fumbbl is already better than most online games.

A big, anonymous, online environment is always going to have some rough edges.

I'd say "just play league and report them to the commish".
Maybe I already did. Very Happy

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Drrek



Joined: Jul 23, 2012
Post   Posted: Aug 11, 2024 - 20:46 Reply with quote Back to top
Leagues (although they are great) aren't what everyone is looking for in this game. There is enjoyment to be had with the random pickup game nature of C. "Report to the commish" is basically meaning "report ot the admins" in that context, which is why ways to help make the site be nicer is helpful
Garcangel



Joined: May 04, 2006
Post   Posted: Aug 11, 2024 - 21:04 Reply with quote Back to top
"in the end I should have won 3-2
if I hadn't had that pick up snake
so I didn't steal anything
totally deserved win for me"

If this comment offends you, i think you have to work on yourself. As awambawamb suggested, change your reactions.
Last thing we need is "shaming" people for just talking.
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Aug 11, 2024 - 22:45 Reply with quote Back to top
It could be important to point out, if we want to nitpick about being nice, friendly fair etc., that I wrote "grats" twice when my opponent scored his 2 TDs, while he didn't write anything when I scored my own 2 TDs.
Should I have been mad at him for that silence according to your fairness obsession? I know that some people are not talkative (due to various reasons: they could either not like an opponent or they are simply interested in playing the game in a robotic way without wasting time with a chat or they want to focus on the gameplay or they could have had a bad day at work, but they are not necessarily bad people, it's a matter of different characters and personalities). If you are so obsessed by being nice, friendly etc. why didn't you point out that double lack of "grats" in the game chat?
The logical answer I find is: you are biased.
If I write something (whatever I write, no matter if good, bad or neutral) I'm an evil unsporstsmanlike guy, if my opponents are silent for all game (apart from hi, gl, hf and gg) and without writing "grats" (which should be important for you, if you care so much about being nice in chat) then there is nothing wrong for you.
You are not judging chat in an objective way. You use double standard to confirm your bias, that's it.
About judging Major gameplay: it's always easy judging people from the comfortable armchair in the spectator chat.
Playing Major games is a bit harder than it may look from the spectator chat and yes, there is always a luck factor in winning with penalty kicks (I had spared a rr, though, so I had a little advantage edit. rrs don't affect kicks in BB2020).
Last, but not least: the comment at the end of game DOESN'T mean I thought that my opponent played bad (otherwise I would have said that openly).
It's better not to jump to conclusions just by reading a chat.
My point was: I didn't feel I robbed the win with the penalty kicks because I had good odds to score a 1TTD at end of Half 1 but a snake stopped it. I never thought that my opponent was bad (I call him Herr Doktor, you can ask him if you want), and not in a disrespectful way.
I just didn't chat a lot with him because he's not a chatty guy (at least with me) and I didn't want to bother him with lot of chatting.
I try to self-regulate my chat: if somebody is talkative, I chat a lot, if I see somebody is silent, I refrain from chatting.
I didn't even whine in the whole game (oooh! Surprised), let me at least write an end game comment! Very Happy
I think that a game is more fun to watch if there is something to read too. Very Happy


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MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005
Post   Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 07:39 Reply with quote Back to top
Rerolls dont help on kicks.

Its just rolling a die 5 times to get a win.

But yea, some do call rolling die eh skill.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Aug 12, 2024 - 12:02 Reply with quote Back to top
Nice to know, in old rules rrs affected the kicks so I thought they did in current rules too.
Since I thought rrs affected the kicks, my psyonic Ork energy affected the rolls.
Very Happy
Happy_Amateur



Joined: Jan 14, 2019
Post   Posted: Aug 17, 2024 - 04:41 Reply with quote Back to top
Lucky theres no review process for Haiku thread involvement.
RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post   Posted: Sep 02, 2024 - 14:42 Reply with quote Back to top
Yuri_the_Scourge wrote:


More of these gems please!


Another pearl of wisdom written by a well-known champion of humility at the end of a lucky draw:

"when dice average out a Legend can't lose"

Very Happy

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RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post 18 Posted: Sep 15, 2024 - 15:32 Reply with quote Back to top
Thought of the day

"when I roll more 1s than my vampire opponent, it's clear I will lose"

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MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005
Post   Posted: Sep 15, 2024 - 18:08 Reply with quote Back to top
I would like to comment on games.

Atleast on games that hsve been commented by players

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RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post   Posted: Sep 15, 2024 - 18:56 Reply with quote Back to top
We are talking about fairplay here, and I decided to use this thread to report comments from players (fresh from the players' chat) who shine with their proverbial humility and fair play. Some are very rare gems!

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RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post   Posted: Sep 15, 2024 - 21:40 Reply with quote Back to top
I quote myself to make more clear what is FairPlay for me
In this match https://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=4572283 looking the awful dice Joost had I should have won the game without problems.
On the contrary Joost failed to win (if his dodge or rush in turn 7 2nd drive would not have failed)
Reason was my very poor third drive where I caged very bad and I did sloppiness and joost strong pressing (note also how I score in 1st drive risk: I was in total numerical superiority) .
My most lucky games this year

My opponent - a true gentleman - after the quad skull followed by the double skull -both down and valkyrie killed, NEVER complained. He took it ironically and even - goodness me - at the end of the game said that I had played well and - at my request - pointed out my mistakes.

Unfortunately I didn't copy the chat I would quote it here as an example of practical FairPlay
These are the real champions.
Not those who when they lose say "it's the fault of too many 1s I threw".

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