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Coach Rating for me is ....
A Joke!
7%
 7%  [ 6 ]
Points which indicate how much you are smart
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
Is somewhat linked to skill level of one coach
19%
 19%  [ 15 ]
173.7178*(µ + φ 02 Xm j=1 g(φj ){sj − E(µ, µj , φj )} µ 0 + 1500
16%
 16%  [ 13 ]
Only English Native Speaker Know...
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
I don't know what is CR
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
I don't care CR
12%
 12%  [ 10 ]
Points which indicate how you are really good in playing BB
6%
 6%  [ 5 ]
Is the only reason why i play competitive: I WANT TO BE NUMBER 1 CR!
5%
 5%  [ 4 ]
200 pies on the table!
24%
 24%  [ 19 ]
Total Votes : 77


RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post   Posted: Sep 26, 2024 - 15:15 Reply with quote Back to top
poll of the week!

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JanMattys



Joined: Feb 29, 2004
Post   Posted: Sep 26, 2024 - 15:31 Reply with quote Back to top
Indiana... let it go.

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Lorebass



Joined: Jun 25, 2010
Post   Posted: Sep 26, 2024 - 20:40
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If you don't like the rankings just stick to league?
Garcangel



Joined: May 04, 2006
Post   Posted: Sep 26, 2024 - 21:00 Reply with quote Back to top
Lorebass wrote:
If you don't like the rankings just stick to league?

Or say nothing instead of constantly complaining and diminishing the hard work of others, especially when you don’t have a clue about what goes into it or how it works.
ThierryM



Joined: Mar 27, 2015
Post   Posted: Sep 26, 2024 - 21:19 Reply with quote Back to top
E-Penis Battle !

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BaronBucky



Joined: Jun 07, 2023
Post   Posted: Sep 26, 2024 - 21:48 Reply with quote Back to top
JanMattys nailed it.

And Garc. Garc also nailed it.


Last edited by BaronBucky on Sep 26, 2024; edited 1 time in total
RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post   Posted: Sep 26, 2024 - 21:49 Reply with quote Back to top
Lorebass wrote:
If you don't like the rankings just stick to league?


I like (and i care) the ranking.

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lemf



Joined: Jul 17, 2005
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2024 - 01:55 Reply with quote Back to top
It's the be all and end all.
JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2024 - 03:40 Reply with quote Back to top
Thanks to Tripleskull - Like NAF rating, it's a good measure of combined skills, opportunity, and effort.

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tussock



Joined: May 29, 2011
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2024 - 07:49 Reply with quote Back to top
CR says, at my best, I'm a match for Malmir at his worst, except for that time I won the fumbbl cup, where I passed him in the game I won on kicks. Which I think is fair.

And I haven't played C div for ages except to lose a bit, so, yeah, CR says it doesn't know if I'm good any more or not, but, I'm not going to be bad at the game. Which I think is fair.

Like, it's not terribly inaccurate in the long run, and it won't rate you top unless you've played a fair bit and also beaten a good few top coaches in a row. Which I think is fair.

I dunno, if you have a ranking system, at all, this one seems to put really good coaches up top of it when they're playing a fair bit, especially if they play each other close together, like in a major tournament.

And yeah, you gotta be lucky, but that's bloodbowl, like golf, the more you practice, the luckier you get.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2024 - 11:32 Reply with quote Back to top
If CR accuracy is a concern, it's better to play thousands of games in the Box (not on Gamefinder) than say CR is a joke.
Play a lot, play often (at least 2-3 games every day) and CR accuracy will increase.
MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2024 - 12:14 Reply with quote Back to top
Is it a bad or good joke ?

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RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2024 - 12:43 Reply with quote Back to top
I like the CR today as it is calculated in FUMBBL

And clearly the forum title ‘joke’ is a provocation.

I don't think the CR is a joke at all and i don't complain the ranking sysytem.

On the contrary: for information I voted for point 3.

The Glicko2 is a very good system that allows you to associate a score to the coach that is ‘somehow’ linked to his skill and thus also to define a ranking, a score that is somehow linked to his skill.

Without me putting others 100 euros back on the table because I'm running out money (the ones I have are waiting for Malmir to come and get them Wink ) I think the majority of coaches on this site consider the CR ranking to be fairly realistic on how much strong and good a coach is in playing blood bowl.

I have been reproached for using subjective terms like ‘deserved’ ' fair' 'unfair'.
Whatever i am writing is my personal opinion , and I think (is my personal opinion) that those who are top 30 in the overal CR ‘deserve’ the place they have (i like to consider the earned CR a sort of prize for the best talented) : I don't know how many agree with me on this last point.

However, I founded in different period (a few) coaches who surprise me to find them in top 10 positioning of the ranking. Especially when I watch how do they play: usually what i discover is that such coaches play infrequent gamefinder competitive games just once per week (so they don't suffer the decay rate ) tiers 1 team vs other coach much less experienced or playing Tiers 3 team: I don't know if this is on purpose or not.

They go up sometimes and then disappear sometime (precisely because the system works... or because they stop playing and decay mechanism has effect ).

But if they play infrequently (and at least once per week: this is key) they can manage to stay on top of CR for a long time with low effort (compared to the effort of other coaches with similar ranking who play more often maybe even ‘tougher’ formats such as Trophy or some minor tournaments...)

Is it a problem that does not let me sleep at night?
No... it is not

Is that an argument to show that FUMBBL ranking sucks or is that a joke? Absolutely not.

it's like a pebble in my shoe that bothers me when I see their ranking .

That's all...

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BaronBucky



Joined: Jun 07, 2023
Post   Posted: Sep 27, 2024 - 15:19 Reply with quote Back to top
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RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post 18 Posted: Sep 27, 2024 - 15:46 Reply with quote Back to top
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyAgpTiDDwM

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