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Carthage



Joined: Mar 18, 2021

Post   Posted: Sep 24, 2024 - 17:05 Reply with quote Back to top

smeborg wrote:
Garion wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/09/16/zzharg-madeye-is-locked-and-loaded-for-blood-bowl/

Zzargh news. With a pretty tame special rule.
Looks pretty good to me, especially combined with Breathe Fire.


Hope it comes with a clarification that if he rolls a 2, and your opponent selects one of your hobgoblins and that goblin goes down, does that create a turnover? Usually the answer is yes, but sometimes no like with projectile vomit.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 09:10 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:
Fire breathers are ma5

And BCs have M access

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Garion



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Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 10:06 Reply with quote Back to top

16 Hobgoblin 6 3 3+ 4+ 8+ G AS 40k

2 Sneaky Stabba 6 3 3+ 5+ 8+ Shadowing Stab, G AS 70K

4 Chaos Dwarf Blocker 4 3 4+ 6+ 10+ Block, thick skull, iron hard skin GS AM 70k

2 Flamesmiths 5 3 4+ 6+ 10+ Brawler, breath fire, Disturbing Presence, Thick skull GS AM 80k

2 Bull Centaur 6 4 4+ 6+ 10+ sprint sure Feet thick skull GS AM 130k

1 Enslaved minotard... Unchanneled fury, m on doubles... normal minotard really...

RR 70k
Tier 1 apparently 😅

Favoured of hashut, badland Brawl

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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 10:07 Reply with quote Back to top

Stabbas are never playing... shockingly over priced and Flamesmiths don't get iron hard skin... when they're the ones doing magic... very odd

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NiozeH



Joined: Mar 09, 2021

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 11:22 Reply with quote Back to top

70k RR. Lost 6 Tackle+2Block.
Stabba super overpriced (+30k for stab? No ty)
Flasmiths are a super bait, no Iron Hard Skin, no Block, and then, they have random cringe skills as Brawler & Disturbing Presence. Trash Positional

Rip Chorfs
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 12:04 Reply with quote Back to top

Stabbas are too expensive to be played, Flamesmiths are bad without Block but you are forced to field them to have two more AV 10+ players, Bull Centaurs with M access don't match the fluff.
The only very little bright side is a slight average MA increase, with two MA 5 Firesmiths (who suck as Blockers/Blitzers, though).
Flamesmiths are a Swiss Army Knife without the knife. 4 skills but the important one, Block.
Nightbird



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 15:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:

2 Bull Centaur 6 4 4+ 6+ 10+ sprint sure Feet thick skull GS AM 130k

1 Enslaved minotard... Unchanneled fury, m on doubles... normal minotard really...


Are these the two changes they think will make up for the other nerfs?

BC w/ mutation access, to give them a claw/mb buff posibility, &
the Minotaur changes from Animal Savagery, to Unchanneled Fury,
to keep from attaking his own players Question

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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 16:46 Reply with quote Back to top

God knows... I just don't think they know what they're doing really

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MattDakka



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Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 17:15 Reply with quote Back to top

As an aside, I'd take Two Heads and Break Tackle on at least one Bull Centaur for 2+ dodges.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 17:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah in perpetual.... but when seasons are in... not sure I'd bother

This ruleset really needs fixing!

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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 17:39 Reply with quote Back to top

I think normal chaos will be able to pick Favoured of hashut now?

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kozak



Joined: Feb 25, 2017

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 18:54 Reply with quote Back to top

How sad, they have less blocks and no more tackle.

"Laughing in stunty"

PS: At least they have flamethrowers, that's cool!

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 19:03 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:
Yeah in perpetual.... but when seasons are in... not sure I'd bother

This ruleset really needs fixing!

Yes, assuming a no Re-Draft scenario.
With Re-Draft I would not bother either.
JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 19:17 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
As an aside, I'd take Two Heads and Break Tackle on at least one Bull Centaur for 2+ dodges.


But AG is just better. Randoming for cheaper will take forever.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Sep 28, 2024 - 19:30 Reply with quote Back to top

AG is better indeed, but you need more SPPs to roll for it and getting it is not assured. A 14+ on D16 is required, which is a 18.75%.
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