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| Do you risk it for a biscuit? |
| Yes - I strive to win |
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47% |
[ 26 ] |
| No - I take a safe draw |
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9% |
[ 5 ] |
| N/A - situational init |
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36% |
[ 20 ] |
| Pie |
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7% |
[ 4 ] |
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| Total Votes : 55 |
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RDaneel
Joined: Feb 24, 2023
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Oct 03, 2024 - 19:59 |
 
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it happened to me to play for CR in a period. And if someone play for CR i think is so obsessed for CR that if the alternative is a risk win vs a noob gaining +2CR, or lost with -25CR , sometime he can opt for a sure draw than an unsure win and limited damage.
This type of play very stressful and frustrating and can cause easy burnouts
That's why I stopped to play for CR and now I have applied Trophy
And that's is the reason why I believe that CR is "someway" linked to coach ability but not always
And that's why I think that is good to try to play always for the win and I think it should be given an extra point for Win in Trophy tournament for instances (+1,5 in spite 1) with respect a 0,5 draw
alea jacta est... |
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JackassRampant
Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Oct 03, 2024 - 20:45 |
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CR, W%, trophies, what people say about you, blah blah blah, all of the above in any cocktail you like, it's all maps of a territory called "Coachingskillsylvania". All will steer you more right than wrong in general, but, uh, your mileage may vary.
The territory can be described lots of ways. These stats are not bad, but since the worst outcome is just annoying, this would be a good venue for the Benthamic approach.
How many hedons is a coach worth, per, uh, well, damn. Can't even see an interval that isn't painful to look at.
Okay, so what are we trying to measure here? |
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BeanBelly
Joined: Nov 14, 2019
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Oct 03, 2024 - 20:51 |
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We are measuring desire.. ahem
Desire to Win! v's desire to safely Draw avoiding potential loss.
Potential loss of something like CR or Points or Pixels or Pride or Pleasure |
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Nelphine
Joined: Apr 01, 2011
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Oct 03, 2024 - 21:30 |
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I think it really comes down to 'desire to win' vs 'desire not to lose'.
I personally wish we discouraged 'not losing' more, and shifted it to 'winning', but, different tastes and all that. |
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RDaneel
Joined: Feb 24, 2023
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Oct 03, 2024 - 22:48 |
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| Nelphine wrote: | I think it really comes down to 'desire to win' vs 'desire not to lose'.
I personally wish we discouraged 'not losing' more, and shifted it to 'winning', but, different tastes and all that. |
for sure everybody like to win but what is the final goal why do you play?
If you play "just for fun" don't play competitive. Play leagues.
So what's is the main goal of people who plays in competitive?
Win, fun, mine spps, kill many player, all these can be nice and fun targets
But...
If you play to maximize the CR....
ooooh...
welcome to the kingdom of the doom damned!
I have tried and i I failed burnout: play primarly to maximize your CR it is the right world to become crazy and obsessed.
Because in a game where there is the dice factor anyway you can win even 5 games in a row against noobs and if you are a Megastar you gain +2 or +3 points every game. Then you get the smack maybe for bad luck against an emerging star and you lose everything you gained in 5 matches. BUM!
If on the other hand you play an RRR; a tournament, a league, Trophy, i would say a mixed way, you don't care about the CR and hope maybe to win the qualifying rounds, or maybe get top 10 in a Trophy with your squad.
And you play more relaxed also in competitive division because you're not trying to become top of the rankings.
Trophy for me is very competitive but since i decide to play Trophy without care on CR but only on the score I play more relaxed, I don't cry if I lose 2 CR or 10 CR as long as I can finish the tournament maybe trying to have a 55% win rate and get a good position, and maybe with a team out of 20 I can even participate in the Gauntlet. Jackpot
And I play to win EVEN IF i risk to lose like in my last game with Black Orcs (truly graced by my Gnomesque opponent)
If you play with the CR obsession you have to play a lot of games and have a win rate of 80% if you want to become Legend.
There were days when I would win 4 games in a row then lose one and lose the whole CR and in the evening I would be mad with rage.
You can't play this game like that. This leads to insanity.
I just don't play it for CR anymore: I try to win them all then if I don't succeed amen nobody dies, the goal isn't CR it's trying to play well in tournaments and leagues. and have fun at this game. It doesn't have to become an obsession!
If i lose a game but i fight till the end trying to win well... i am happy
The more if i played this game with tiers 3-4 team (in this sense my 2-1 losted game with my Goblins vs Malmir's Ogres was a crazy games but at the end super fun).
of course this does not mean you have to play sloppy and unkempt in the competitive division. You always have to try to play well and maybe the goal of winning makes you develop some interesting game fantasies that you wouldn't have the courage to tackle if you were only playing for CR and therefore with the goal of ‘losing very rarely’.
I have written my usual pamphlet... I know you hate me for this... I talk a lot
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Oct 03, 2024 - 23:01 |
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Nelphine
Joined: Apr 01, 2011
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Oct 03, 2024 - 23:15 |
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i mean, i play leagues so that i can play competitive matches, because competitive isn't  (more accurately, box isn't) |
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