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Wyzard



Joined: Nov 24, 2018
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 07:58 Reply with quote Back to top
Here's a question for the usual debate that goes on around here.

My Renegade Skaven couldn't roll Iron Hard Skin as a random mutation think because (too lazy to look it up) he's already AV7. Figure the change to IHS regarding not modifying armour in any way is not just for Chorfs and will be a buff for all, then should IHS get added to the random rolls?

The skill, while still really, REALLY, low on my list of must take skills now has a use beyond being an anti-claw shield.
Java



Joined: Jan 27, 2018
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 10:04 Reply with quote Back to top
Well spotted

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Christer



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 10:45
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Thank you, this has been corrected.
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 11:52 Reply with quote Back to top
Thank you for spotting that, your careful attention to detail is much appreciated.
RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 14:35 Reply with quote Back to top
interesting... not linked to the bug but i am curious to know what could be the the utility of IHS on a player with AV7
(it's a serious question, I don't get it... not ironic eh... )

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Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 14:59 Reply with quote Back to top
Your opponent can't get any modifiers to the AV roll? Like mighty blow (it could still impact injury) or dirty player?
RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 15:05 Reply with quote Back to top
But Iron Hard Skill text on user manual say "Claws cannot be used when making an Armour roll against this player". Does not say anything about dirty player. So if you foul a player with IHS you can use the +1 modified... Confused

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 15:32 Reply with quote Back to top
The Dirty Player +1 modifier can't be used for the AV roll on an Iron Hard Skin player, but it can be used for the Injury roll.
Iron Hard Skin cancels the foul assists as well.
Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 15:48 Reply with quote Back to top
IHS got updated with the new Chaos Dwarf roster. It's very different now.
RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 17:26 Reply with quote Back to top
MattDakka wrote:
The Dirty Player +1 modifier can't be used for the AV roll on an Iron Hard Skin player, but it can be used for the Injury roll.
Iron Hard Skin cancels the foul assists as well.


where is written officially? I do not find in the BB2020 official rulebooks and in the last Errata . Maybe has been amended with the last CD roster but in this case they should do a FAQ in November ?

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Wyzard



Joined: Nov 24, 2018
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 18:01 Reply with quote Back to top
RDaneel wrote:
MattDakka wrote:
The Dirty Player +1 modifier can't be used for the AV roll on an Iron Hard Skin player, but it can be used for the Injury roll.
Iron Hard Skin cancels the foul assists as well.


where is written officially? I do not find in the BB2020 official rulebooks and in the last Errata . Maybe has been amended with the last CD roster but in this case they should do a FAQ in November ?


The updated to IHS came with the revised Chaos Dwarf roster. Expect a formal update to the skill with the next errata or publication. Everyone appears to be assuming the skill is now updated for all.
Brutus-Dagon



Joined: Feb 16, 2024
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 19:29 Reply with quote Back to top
Underworld can now finally get IHS Snotlings for 25k Tier 1 secured.
RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 19:42 Reply with quote Back to top
Wyzard wrote:
RDaneel wrote:
MattDakka wrote:
The Dirty Player +1 modifier can't be used for the AV roll on an Iron Hard Skin player, but it can be used for the Injury roll.
Iron Hard Skin cancels the foul assists as well.


where is written officially? I do not find in the BB2020 official rulebooks and in the last Errata . Maybe has been amended with the last CD roster but in this case they should do a FAQ in November ?


The updated to IHS came with the revised Chaos Dwarf roster. Expect a formal update to the skill with the next errata or publication. Everyone appears to be assuming the skill is now updated for all.


Ah ! Ok thx!

Looking forward for Errata/FAQ in November!
Thx

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Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011
Post   Posted: Oct 19, 2024 - 20:55 Reply with quote Back to top
You don't need to wait, the updated rule is already live
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