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Are Trolls on the Goblin team Loner 4+ or Loner 3+?
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smeborg



Joined: Jan 04, 2019
Post   Posted: Nov 26, 2024 - 03:18 Reply with quote Back to top
The roster (under "Team rosters and advice) and the picture (when playing) show the Trolls on the Goblin team as Loner 3+, but when an attempt to use a Team Re-roll by a Troll is made, the text says "Roll 4+ to succeed".

So what is the state of play on FUMBBL? Loner 3+ or Loner 4+ for the Trolls on the Goblin team?

My apologies if this question has been asked and answered before and I have been unable to find it.
Bram



Joined: Jan 04, 2008
Post   Posted: Nov 26, 2024 - 07:38 Reply with quote Back to top
Trained trolls have loner 3+ while trolls have loner 4+. Goblin teams have trained trolls. Orc teams have trolls.
smeborg



Joined: Jan 04, 2019
Post   Posted: Nov 26, 2024 - 19:27 Reply with quote Back to top
Thanks!

My question starts from the perspective that the in-game log says that the Trained Trolls on the Gobbo team need to roll a 4+ to succeed in their Loner Rolls (when you and I and GW and FUMBBL elsewhere say it should be 3+). So I don't know at this stage whether it is a rules issue (though I presume not), a FUMBBL implementation issue, or a bug.
Carthage



Joined: Mar 18, 2021
Post   Posted: Nov 26, 2024 - 20:25 Reply with quote Back to top
Do you have a replay to reference?
razmus



Joined: Jun 23, 2017
Post   Posted: Nov 26, 2024 - 20:57 Reply with quote Back to top
It's also possible it's a display bug.
The trained troll sure LOOKS like it's set to Loner (3+)
https://fumbbl.com/p/position?id=37754

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Candlejack



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Nov 26, 2024 - 21:52 Reply with quote Back to top
The re-roll dialog only states that the re-roll is not guaranteed to work due to loner. The required roll relates to the acutal roll you failed like really stupid etc.

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smeborg



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Post   Posted: Nov 26, 2024 - 23:31 Reply with quote Back to top
Thanks for all your help.

I have found 1 case of a Trained Troll failing a Loner roll to use a Team Re-roll, but this failed on a 2. I am presuming that I would need to show a case where the roll is failed on a roll of 3.

I also think I might be describing the issue incorrectly. It is probably in the pop-up window showing the question whether or not to use a Team Re-roll on a Loner that the description "Roll a 4+ to succeed" is shown" (or similar wording).

Hope that helps.
Candlejack



Joined: Aug 02, 2003
Post   Posted: Nov 27, 2024 - 06:44 Reply with quote Back to top
See my post above

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smeborg



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Post   Posted: Nov 27, 2024 - 10:36 Reply with quote Back to top
Thanks, Candlejack! I will keep an eye out for any recurrence. Alas my Gobbo team is no longer active, having completed its 15 games in BBT12.
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