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Diving Tackle vs Pogo Stick?
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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Dec 11, 2024 - 14:38 Reply with quote Back to top
I have just played a game:

https://fumbbl.com/p/match?id=4592733

where I marked a Pogoer with a Diving Tackler.
To escape from the marking player the Pogoer Jumped away.
I checked the rules and Diving Tackle should give a -2 modifier to Dodge, Jump and Leap actions.
On the other hand, Pogo Stick ignores the Tackle Zone modifiers when Leaping.

Should the Pogoer have had the Diving Tackle -2 modifier to Jump or not?
Diving Tackle modifier is not a Tackle Zone modifier, so Pogo Stick should not ignore it, if I'm not wrong.
Carthage



Joined: Mar 18, 2021
Post   Posted: Dec 11, 2024 - 14:51 Reply with quote Back to top
Don't have my handy dandy rulebook but I assume dadidimerda has the right terminology:

Diving Tackle: "Should an active opposition player that is attempting to Dodge, Jump or Leap in *order to vacate a square in which they are being Marked by this player* pass their Agility test, you may declare that this player will use this Skill. Your opponent must immediately subtract 2 from the result of the Agility test. This player is then Placed Prone in the square vacated by the opposition player. If the opposition player was being Marked by more than one player with this Skill, only one player may use it."


Pogo Stick: During their movement, instead of jumping over a single square that is occupied by a Prone or Stunned player, as described on page 45, a player with this Trait may choose to Leap over any single adjacent square, including unoccupied square and squares occupied by Standing players. Additionally, when this player makes and Agility test to jump over a Prone or Stunned player, or to Leap over an empty square or a square occupied by a Standing player, *they may ignore any negative modifiers that would normally be applied for being Marked in the square they jumped or leaped from and/or for being marked in the square they have jumped or leaped into*. A player with this Trait cannot also have the Leap skill.

Since pogo ignores being marked, it seems correct that you cannot use diving tackle.
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Dec 11, 2024 - 16:07 Reply with quote Back to top
Yes, I guess that so. Thank you very much!
JamesLangley



Joined: Jul 24, 2022
Post   Posted: Dec 12, 2024 - 01:49 Reply with quote Back to top
Q: Does a player with the Pogo Stick trait still suffer the -2 modifier to their Agility test when attempting to Leap away from a player who uses the Diving Tackle skill? (p.85)
A: No, a player with the Pogo Stick trait ignores all negative modifiers applied for being Marked when attempting to Leap.

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/bloodbowl_faqs&errata_errata&designerscommentary_eng_24.09-axlajwasve.pdf
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007
Post   Posted: Dec 12, 2024 - 13:30 Reply with quote Back to top
Thank you very much!
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