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Tripleskull



Joined: Oct 12, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 08:24 Reply with quote Back to top

It would be very nice if using dp could be made optional, would that be feasible?

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Solaris



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Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 09:02 Reply with quote Back to top

I would appreciate this

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JanMattys



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Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 09:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Is there any reason I can't think of for choosing not to use the skill? You have literally no disadvantage for using it.

Uhm. Maybe you need to break armor, but you don't want the player out because you need the square occupied?

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Joost



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Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 10:00 Reply with quote Back to top

Especially with DP+2 you might not use it to break armour and risk a sent off for an unmodified injury roll. Especially if you have sneaky git.
MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005

Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 10:18 Reply with quote Back to top

As a Finnish person, I cant see any reason for not using a dirty player.

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Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 10:22 Reply with quote Back to top

Joost wrote:
Especially with DP+2 you might not use it to break armour and risk a sent off for an unmodified injury roll. Especially if you have sneaky git.

If you don't want that risk, just don't foul
C0ddlefish



Joined: Sep 17, 2019

Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 10:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Presumably it's on the list of 'skills that are technically optional but we don't want a pop-up every single time we use it'
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 11:54 Reply with quote Back to top

If we don't want a pop-up every single time we use it then make it optional.
People who are not bothered by such pop-up can enable it, people not liking the pop-up can disable it.
Tripleskull



Joined: Oct 12, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 11:56 Reply with quote Back to top

JanMattys wrote:
Is there any reason I can't think of for choosing not to use the skill? You have literally no disadvantage for using it.

Uhm. Maybe you need to break armor, but you don't want the player out because you need the square occupied?


I am talking about not using it on the AV roll.

Only risking the ejection when you have DP on the Inj roll is significant, particularly for the likes of a Death Rollers and Lord Borak, but also for regular Dirty players.
fxiii



Joined: Oct 30, 2012

Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 12:40 Reply with quote Back to top

same thing for Mighty blow though, sometimes you just want a square filled with a prone player and wont use MB if you have the choice... but yeah that'd be a lot of popups Smile
Joost



Joined: Mar 17, 2014

Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 13:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Sp00keh wrote:
Joost wrote:
Especially with DP+2 you might not use it to break armour and risk a sent off for an unmodified injury roll. Especially if you have sneaky git.

If you don't want that risk, just don't foul


I don't mind this not being implemented in the client at all, but this is a reason why one would want it implemented. Especially with someone like Borak I would certainly opt out early on of any foul where I would need to apply the +2 on an armour roll.
Tripleskull



Joined: Oct 12, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 07, 2025 - 16:22 Reply with quote Back to top

fxiii wrote:
same thing for Mighty blow though, sometimes you just want a square filled with a prone player and wont use MB if you have the choice... but yeah that'd be a lot of popups Smile


This reason is very marginal, an I would say not worth it. The DP case is quite different. In any case I think it should be optional to get the pop ups like with a number of other skills.
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