Cathaidan
Joined: Sep 24, 2007
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Jan 08, 2025 - 17:33 |
 
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So... The following interaction happened this morning during a game, and it has me confused.
Both teams set up at the start of the game. Kick-Off result is a Blitz. Chaos Dwarf Bull-Centaur activates for the blitz. Moves 5 squares, hits a dwarf blocker, chooses not to follow up, and then rushes. Rolls a 1 on the rush. Immediately falls down, Blitz is over.
My question is, I know I don't get a Team RR on that, but he has Sure Feet... Why didn't the Sure Feet reroll trigger? |
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razmus
Joined: Jun 23, 2017
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Jan 08, 2025 - 17:42 |
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The skill starts with "Once per team turn,[...]" and blitz according to the errata/faq, isn't a team turn. |
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razmus
Joined: Jun 23, 2017
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Jan 08, 2025 - 17:47 |
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(And actually, the FAQ specially covers Sure Feet currently.)
| Quote: | Q: Can the Sure Feet skill be used on moves outside of a player's activation, such as those provided from the Blitz results on the Kick-off Event table? (p75)
A: No. The Sure Feet skill can only be used during that player's activation. |
I think they've messed up the terminology.. since Blitz says the players activate, but they've previously said the Blitz event isn't a team turn. >shrug< |
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Prez
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 08, 2025 - 17:49 |
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Agree its not a TRR, due to it being a Blitz.
But thought built in skills allowing a RR can be implemented. Like Catch |
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razmus
Joined: Jun 23, 2017
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Jan 08, 2025 - 17:57 |
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Here's the guide for what is usable during a blitz kickoff event.
Catch doesn't say anything about being used during a team turn, but then... it's moot because there is nothing possible to catch during a Blitz kickoff event. (There's no ball during the kickoff event, and nothing can be thrown...) |
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razmus
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Jan 08, 2025 - 17:59 |
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| Prez wrote: | | But thought built in skills allowing a RR can be implemented. Like Catch |
And rerolls for Dodge, for example, explicitly aren't available per the errata/FAQ. |
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MerryZ
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Jan 08, 2025 - 18:19 |
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Sure feet skill also says "once per team turn" so thats not on blitz kickoff |
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Carthage
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Jan 08, 2025 - 18:28 |
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Because GW hates consistency in their rules. |
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MattDakka
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Jan 08, 2025 - 18:54 |
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Nightbird
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 09, 2025 - 00:22 |
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Hmmm...Pro can be used on a Blitz. Interesting. I guess because it is not guaranteed?
Also, aside from Y/N, what does the "-" stand for? |
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The_Murker
Joined: Jan 30, 2011
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Jan 09, 2025 - 01:02 |
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- = "Does not apply
Catch is a "-" Because there can never be anything to catch on a BLITZ.
Jump Up is a "-" because no one is ever on the ground to begin a BLITZ, etc. etc. |
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Prez
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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Jan 09, 2025 - 11:36 |
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I used Catch as albeit a poor example of where a player's built in skills can be used as a RR.
Such as 'High Kick' result, a catcher can rr a failed catch. Other players can not use TRR for a failed catch
So seems a bit stupid that a BC with SF can not use it on the Blitz.
To be pedantic maybe players block, shouldn't be allowed to use it on the Blitz! |
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Sp00keh
Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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Jan 09, 2025 - 12:48 |
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It's a mess, it's inconsistent, and I don't think GW even realised
It all hinges on some skills saying 'Once per team turn..' which I think they put in to specify you can't use it multiple times in a single turn.
I don't think they intended to exclude Blitz! events, or opponent's turn
Hopefully it gets cleared up, in either new ruleset or a table similar to Christer's in the FAQ or something |
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razmus
Joined: Jun 23, 2017
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Jan 09, 2025 - 14:26 |
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| Prez wrote: | | So seems a bit stupid that a BC with SF can not use it on the Blitz. |
Preaching to the choir my friend.
But then, I also think inaccurate passes, and conceding the game to win as a bit stupid too. Unfortunately the folks who write the rules aren't here. |
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Prez
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Jan 09, 2025 - 15:28 |
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[quote="razmus"]| Prez wrote: | | conceding the game to win as a bit stupid too. |
I haven't come across that one, when & how does that happen? |
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