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Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Posted: Feb 07, 2025 - 20:33

Yea we understand that, and we know you're not doing it for $$$
I don't object at all to what you've done. And I've got several 3rd party teams myself, brutefun, ugni, etc

The negativity isn't directed at you the enduser. mostly it's at the AI industry's theft of copyright material to build these tools
There's also the aspect of how it will impact creative jobs in the future that many are wary of

Zelmor

Joined: Sep 29, 2022

Posted: Feb 08, 2025 - 12:52

Regardless of whether you think these AI images are theft or not, they look garbage and if you like them you have bad taste. Pick up a pen, learn to draw. Pick up Blender. Learn to sculpt. You will get more satisfaction out of life that way. This here thing that OP posted? This is just noise I wish he didn't share. Dime a dozen.

Kondor

Joined: Apr 04, 2008

Posted: Feb 08, 2025 - 13:05

Zelmor wrote:

Regardless of whether you think these AI images are theft or not, they look garbage and if you like them you have bad taste. Pick up a pen, learn to draw. Pick up Blender. Learn to sculpt. You will get more satisfaction out of life that way. This here thing that OP posted? This is just noise I wish he didn't share. Dime a dozen.

This is just the beginning. AI will continue to improve and the detail level will improve. I plan to run the same images through the program or a similar program every 6 months to see the progress.

No problem if you don't like them. Professional sculpts are clearly better. Sculpting is not what brings me satisfaction it is painting and playing the games.

Even though stuff like Hero Clicks look just as good or better than what I paint, I continue to find enjoyment in the painting. I am sure there are others that feel the same.

Oh, and I will post more as the mood strikes me.

Drrek

Joined: Jul 23, 2012

Posted: Feb 08, 2025 - 16:52

Kondor wrote:

Zelmor wrote:

Regardless of whether you think these AI images are theft or not, they look garbage and if you like them you have bad taste. Pick up a pen, learn to draw. Pick up Blender. Learn to sculpt. You will get more satisfaction out of life that way. This here thing that OP posted? This is just noise I wish he didn't share. Dime a dozen.

This is just the beginning. AI will continue to improve and the detail level will improve. I plan to run the same images through the program or a similar program every 6 months to see the progress.

This has been said a lot but its not necessarily true (though it could be).

First, this is not just the beginning. AI has been in development for a long time. Machine learning has been a thing for many years. There have been major breakthroughs recently, but it isn't like we just discovered a new field and are just getting our hands into it.

Second, technology just doesn't work like this. People see a technology explode out of seemingly nowhere and then assume it will continue at that same rate of development forever. It usually doesn't. Often it ends up slowing down quite a bit as the gains become more and more marginal until some new paradigm shifting breakthrough happens. But that breakthrough could be decades from now for all we know.

Or it could be tomorrow. Technology is not a linear process, it has great surges forward, and long plateaus of minimal gains. Currently we are in a surge, and when that happens, its easy to feel like it will continue at that pace forever. But there is a solid chance that it won't. We just don't know.

koadah

Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Posted: Feb 08, 2025 - 17:14

Garion wrote:

Anyway. I'm out... I despise AI stealing art. Nothing more to say.

Well, sure but a lot of writing is out of copyright. A lot of painters have been dead for hundreds of years.

Some people might offer "open source" work.
I guess the big companies might pay artists to create art especially for AI.

I don't know how it works though if someone later comes to you with a copyright claim from something that you created from AI.

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gumbi

Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Posted: Feb 08, 2025 - 18:23

Wow - can you please post an article how you do this? debates aside it is awesome work.