koadah
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BeanBelly
Joined: Nov 14, 2019
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Mar 21, 2025 - 10:37 |
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Not sure if this has been brought up before...
Today my UW 2nd game into second season at 1165k TV faced an uber powerful 5 rr vampire team at 1760 TV on game 15.
I thought about conceding immediately, but then realised that was against the site rules. So we just had a fun game of Blood Bowl instead ^^ |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Mar 21, 2025 - 11:40 |
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Well done, never give up, never surrender!
That Vampire team has finished its Season, it should not be an issue in the Box for a while. |
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Sp00keh
Joined: Dec 06, 2011
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Mar 21, 2025 - 12:59 |
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It's a very cool replay, violent, back and forth, and high level coaching
You nearly had it as well
UW are the best roster for underdog games imo, they're super TV efficient and need only 2-3 developed players, and have access to strong stars that complement them well
If the matchup was similarly gapped but had a less than excellent coach, with a less efficient team, it would not be the same picture
Even in this scenario, BeanBelly still thought about conceding
Which does reflect the perception problem that high-gap games have, whether justified or not |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Mar 21, 2025 - 13:04 |
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In a TVMM environment a coach should have the right to play without a big TV gap, regardless the win rate stats for TV gaps games. |
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BeanBelly
Joined: Nov 14, 2019
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Mar 21, 2025 - 14:15 |
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| Sp00keh wrote: | BeanBelly still thought about conceding
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Sorry, I better clarify: I did NOT think about conceding. It was a joke but not a good one, because my British sense of humour probably doesn’t travel too well round the world. Apologies
Also thanks for the compliments. It was a fun match, we both set out to smash heads in and score touchdowns. Tbh I’m surprised there were not more cracked skulls, and more touchdowns. |
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BeanBelly
Joined: Nov 14, 2019
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Mar 21, 2025 - 14:19 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | | In a TVMM environment a coach should have the right to play without a big TV gap, regardless the win rate stats for TV gaps games. |
There’s this UK radio show Just A Minute where guests try to speak for 1minute without ‘repetition, deviation, or hesitation’
I call you out for saying ‘TV’ three times in one sentence : ) |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Mar 21, 2025 - 15:00 |
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It would be a way to make a TV show on the radio, not bad! |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Mar 21, 2025 - 15:10 |
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| Sp00keh wrote: |
Even in this scenario, BeanBelly still thought about conceding
Which does reflect the perception problem that high-gap games have, whether justified or not |
Isn't it more to do with how absolutely broken Vamps are now? rather than just the TV difference.
UW are a perfect team to enter in to this match up because they have the Ma to cope, plus their roster is perfectly suited to heavily min maxing.... but there are a lot of match ups this would be close to impossible to play in.... Vampires are utterly broken and I would be resigned to losing that game with almost every race.
In short.... not sure the TV gap is the issue, but high TV vamps deffo is |
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Joost
Joined: Mar 17, 2014
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Mar 21, 2025 - 15:14 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | | In a TVMM environment a coach should have the right to play without a big TV gap, regardless the win rate stats for TV gaps games. |
I disagree strongly. On a free website you should have the right to play according to site rules, or opt out of playing at all.
You may have preference for a different set of site rules, but no-one other than Christer has any right to such a thing. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Mar 21, 2025 - 15:16 |
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And this leads to: how to make Vampire teams grow less?
Shorter Seasons and 1300 Re-Draft budget.
15 games per Season are too many.
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You may have preference for a different set of site rules, but no-one other than Christer has any right to such a thing. |
Of course. I'm suggesting ideas for Christer to implement.
Please notice that I used "should". It's not an order, it's a suggestion:
"In a TVMM environment a coach should have the right". |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Mar 21, 2025 - 15:18 |
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| MattDakka wrote: | And this leads to: how to make Vampire teams grow less?
Shorter Seasons and 1300 Re-Draft budget.
15 games per Season are too many. |
I don't think 12 games would make enough difference.... also it would make the game more boring for other teams and we would see even less variety, though there is very little already.
Vamps are a big problem after about 8 games. they need nerfed |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Mar 21, 2025 - 15:21 |
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Better boring that blatantly unbalanced and frustrating to play in a supposed competitive environment.
Most games are boring anyway because about 7 races are decently playable for more than 1 Season right now. At least the super mismatches would be removed.
It's better to have a 12-game Season than a 15-game Season, because it's closer to the 8 games.
It's simple logic. It's better to get closer to the ideal number than to stay forever at a bad number of games per Season.
At this time I would say 10 games per Season.
I suggested 12 per Season just to fit the 60 games of the BBT, but I guess that 10 games would be better.
We can't nerf the Vampires, but we can work on the Season's length and budget, because these are discretionary parameters. |
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Garion
Joined: Aug 19, 2009
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Mar 21, 2025 - 15:36 |
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I'm not sure reducing the seasons to that size would have the effect you are hoping though. I think vamps would still be broken as hell even with 10 game seasons... |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Mar 21, 2025 - 15:40 |
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They would be broken for a shorter number of games, at least, or less broken, with less developed Vampires. It would still have a positive effect.
With a 10-game Season in 30 games there are 3 Re-Drafts, with 15-game Season 2.
In 45 games 4 Re-Drafts, with 15 game-Season 3 and so on.
Re-Draft at 1300, not at 1350.
It gets harder to develop them as much as now. |
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