ramchop
Joined: Oct 12, 2013
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I love these guys:
I don't think I've ever seen zombie #12 on the pitch, which is a shame. He's awesome.
One guy I have seen on the pitch a lot, is this guy
That's because there is only one human blitzer.
I know uniforms should perhaps be, umm, uniform. But I like a bit of variety on the pitch.
So after the fun I had with the khorne icons, I'm going to have a crack at expanding the current set so that each player on the pitch is unique.
Top priorities:
 , Human blitzer expand from 1 to 4
 , Human linemen expand to 6
 , Amazon linewomen, expand to 6 (is this enough?)
 , Chaos beastmen expand to 8
 , Goblins, expand to 10
 , High Elf linemen, expand to 6
 , Khemri skeleton, expand to 6
 Norse lineman, expand to 8
 Skaven linerat, expand to 6
 Underworld goblins, expand to 10
 Thrall, expand to 10
 Wood Elf lineman, expand to 8
 Wood Elf catcher, expand to 4
 Wood Elf lineman, expand to 2
Lower priority:
 , Orc lineman, expand to 6
 , Hobgoblin, expand to 6
 Skaven thrower, expand to two.
 , Dark Elf Assassin, expand to 2
 , Dark Elf lineman, expand to 6
 , Elf lineman, expand to 6
Wood Elf thrower, expand to 2
Please let me know if I've missed any, or if I have my numbers or priorities wrong. |
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Harad
Joined: May 11, 2014
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Apr 17, 2018 - 12:43 |
 
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akaRenton used to field zombie 12 quite a lot.
Hard to know if your priorities are wrong without knowing what else is going on in your life  but if you have the time for this it would be a lovely contribution.
I think there's a typo at the end where you mean wood elf thrower. Unimportant but just to check, |
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Kondor
Joined: Apr 04, 2008
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Apr 17, 2018 - 12:56 |
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Ramchop, I for one appreciate the work you have put into this and the other project. Thank you. |
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ArrestedDevelopment
Joined: Sep 14, 2015
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Apr 17, 2018 - 13:05 |
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the zombies kinda correspond to raised players too 
I was setting the x,y for raised zombies for necro team bios for a while.
There's (to my eye) - human lino, woodie lino, HE lino, Zon blitzer, zon catcher, froggie mans, dorf troll slayer.
Nurgz got the rat of course and the PE blitzer... |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Apr 17, 2018 - 14:13 |
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Since we are talking about icons, I'm still waiting for the Orc Renegade to be added.
It's a shame considering the icon is ready. |
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cdwat
Joined: Oct 29, 2013
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Apr 17, 2018 - 14:28 |
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Kondor
Joined: Apr 04, 2008
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Apr 17, 2018 - 14:33 |
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| cdwat wrote: |
Great stuff ramchop, good luck with the project.
| MattDakka wrote: | Since we are talking about icons, I'm still waiting for the Orc Renegade to be added.
It's a shame considering the icon is ready. |
Is it not? I spec'd a game yesterday and I spotted one:
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?replay=1059517 |
That is a league game. I think he would like it to be available in Ranked and the Box. |
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MattDakka
Joined: Oct 09, 2007
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Apr 17, 2018 - 14:34 |
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I have a Black Box Chaos Renegade team not ready, and when I select to buy a player no Orc Renegade is displayed on the menu.
Yes I'm talking about Black Box, for the record. |
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ArrestedDevelopment
Joined: Sep 14, 2015
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Apr 17, 2018 - 15:41 |
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ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Seventyone
Joined: Dec 02, 2010
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Apr 17, 2018 - 16:05 |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Apr 17, 2018 - 19:08 |
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Nick Kelsch made the V2 icons (aka the human blitzer). I saw an action shot of a human team he took as a demonstration and there was a second blitzer. I never managed to track it down though.
One of the problems (for me) is that the team from 2 years ago had definitely taken icon making a step further than before. Further than the V2 NK icons. Sadly none of them are making icons for the site now. So I feel there are techniques that have been lost for any new batch of icons.
One thing I had on the agenda for Khemri was to make the away kit a little more authentic. Change the dark blue to an Egyptian turqoise colour and to give extra contrast make the bone a aged dark cream/beige colour. I seem to remember doing some as a test.....
Like we did with HE, DE and Lizards you can think out of the box a little when it comes to home and away kits. |
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gpope
Joined: Jun 04, 2010
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Apr 17, 2018 - 19:10 |
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| ramchop wrote: | | , Amazon linewomen, expand to 6 (is this enough?) |
I would say they need 8 as much as norse, if not more. It's fairly rare for zon teams to carry more than 5 positionals (many of them only take the 4 blitzers, sometimes less for ultra lean teams) and they're squishy so they usually have a few extra linos to sub in as the casualties pile up. |
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ArrestedDevelopment
Joined: Sep 14, 2015
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Apr 17, 2018 - 19:11 |
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yo HM, how about you have a look at some of the custom icons people make for SL/CIBBL/BIBBL before saying "techniques that have been lost".
Yes, i understand, there's lot so talented guys no longer here, but less laments buddy! |
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harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Apr 17, 2018 - 20:34 |
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Think of the icons as 3 eras.
1. Pat era
2. Nick Kelsch era
3. Whatball era
With experience of the client and the icons available each took the available icons to a new revolutionary level using new techniques. A lot of the existing icons however are still from the NK era. So you're going back an era and trying to recreate the wheel that WB so skillfully 7-3 years ago. Between us we learnt, experimented, created rules that new icon makers cannot possibly be aware of. For example Mr Furious style of highlighting/shading? Or Whatball's guidelines on doing diagonal pixels? I believe that's all lost.
Possibly there's someone now that has more talent than anybody in the past (that's not what I am saying). However they'll be going back an era of icons and trying to bring the icons on to a level or further than what was achieved before. So yes techniques will have been lost. I am not saying they cannot make better icons. |
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ramchop
Joined: Oct 12, 2013
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Interesting stuff. As I said with my & cdwat's khorne project, I'm not a picon artist. There won't be any fantastic zombie #12s. What there will be is a bit more variety sourced from bits and pieces of what is already out there. Something like the pitfighter expansion.
From this:
To this:
So nothing revolutionary. Very keen to hear feedback, on what I could do better. I'm going to have a crack and leave it to those above to accept/decline. Like the Pact/Underwrold logos someone created a year or two ago, if it's not quite right it won't make it across the line.
As for the talent pool. I found this fun, and will continue to fiddle. If there are any genuine artists out there who want to have a go also, please do so. |
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