Kill-kill> New post for you to ignore/misinterpret/not address
<Kill-kill> :-D
<CastroGiovanni> Well, I'm trying to work on my column for monday
<CastroGiovanni> so will be ignoring them from this point on
<CastroGiovanni> But thanks for the heads up
<Kill-kill> Aww...
<Kill-kill> half-way through a good one
<CastroGiovanni> I'm sure in this one you really did prove me wrong and made me look stupid despite the fact that you are employing the argument techniques of a 12 year old
<CastroGiovanni> So congratulations
<CastroGiovanni> but work must come first
<Kill-kill> It really has made me chuckle and the most "brutal" post against me came from a guy that when I got speaking to him not only did he admit he deliberately ignored earlier posts for the sake of argument, he also agreed to play me and give me some pointers should they be needed.
<Kill-kill> It's not all bad really.
<CastroGiovanni> yeah
<CastroGiovanni> exactly
<CastroGiovanni> I had to work mega-hard
<Kill-kill> i see you were terribly flamed
<CastroGiovanni> just to get someone to behave normally
<Kill-kill> that must have been awful--or not all bad.
<CastroGiovanni> I'm too old and thick skinned to care about it
<CastroGiovanni> it happens. It happens, when you write for websites people can instantly flame your hard work
<CastroGiovanni> and they do
<CastroGiovanni> so you get used to it
<CastroGiovanni> doesn't alter anything I've said being true, nor you conforming to it
<CastroGiovanni> Indeed, the post I made at the end of the thread was simply to wrap it up
<CastroGiovanni> the game never happened and I never spoke to the guy again
<CastroGiovanni> but I grafted hard enough just to get him to make the offer
<CastroGiovanni> why would anyone want "asshole" as a default stance
<Kill-kill> I agree--however, I, personally, think telling someone to kill himself is well within the realm of "asshole"
<Kill-kill> that is probably where our opinions diverge
<CastroGiovanni> telling an asshole to kill themselves is the leats you can do
<CastroGiovanni> nah, you're just trying to look clever
<CastroGiovanni> I mean in that post
<CastroGiovanni> lol
<CastroGiovanni> Who started the flaming again? Now I am really confused....
<CastroGiovanni> Clearly him
<CastroGiovanni> always him
<CastroGiovanni> why is that confusing
<CastroGiovanni> how is any of that post relevant to the thread
<CastroGiovanni> or the topic at hand
<Kill-kill> you really didn't read my earlier post, did you?
<CastroGiovanni> I'll hazard a guess you're at college or just started university
<Kill-kill> the bit where i pointed out that noobs dont get flamed when they don't make asshats of themselves?
<CastroGiovanni> yeah I did
<CastroGiovanni> maznaz wasn't being an asshat
<CastroGiovanni> I wasn't either
<Kill-kill> ....
<CastroGiovanni> I put up a "test" post to find some "normal" people
<CastroGiovanni> all the people who flamed it were duly avoided
<Kill-kill> "you live in your mother's basement and should kill yourself"=being an asshat
<CastroGiovanni> so again, you're argument is way off
<CastroGiovanni> because maznaz didn't do anything worth the flame he got
<CastroGiovanni> and it disproves what you're saying
<Kill-kill> maznaz's post was not about how noobs are treated
<Kill-kill> it was calling out a particular coach for a particular game
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<CastroGiovanni> busy beavering with an edit
<CastroGiovanni> you might want to take some of these things I'm saying
<CastroGiovanni> and use them to strengthen up your argument
<CastroGiovanni> which is a non-argument
<CastroGiovanni> because no one is talking about what you are :D
<Kill-kill> my argument is still intact--I made it in my first post and you have yet to address it
<Kill-kill> however, that being said, this conversation has at least led me to believe that you have a legitimate basis for your opinion
<Kill-kill> i disagree with it, but it is there
<CastroGiovanni> so yeah, college or uni first year, right?
<Kill-kill> nope--second year high school
<CastroGiovanni> so yeah, college or uni first year, right?
<Kill-kill> does it matter?
<CastroGiovanni> not really - you have the snugness of someone in that situation. God knows what you'll be like when you get there.
<CastroGiovanni> It does explain why your argument technique is that of a 12 year old though
<CastroGiovanni> you practically are one
<Kill-kill> hehe
<Kill-kill> there is the classy again. I believe the phrase is usually "shoot the messenger"
<Kill-kill> you have no idea how tempting it is to get into personal attacks :-D
<CastroGiovanni> It's not personal
<CastroGiovanni> how old are you to be in second year of high school?
<Kill-kill> "practically 12"
<Kill-kill> but, if you must know, 15
<CastroGiovanni> not a personal attack
<CastroGiovanni> you're certainly closer to 12 than you are to being an adult
<CastroGiovanni> and you post as such
<CastroGiovanni> sorry if that offends but it's true
<Kill-kill> ;-)
<Kill-kill> At this point I would like to point out that you have yet to show any examples of this noob flaming.
<Kill-kill> Still.
<CastroGiovanni> I don't need to
<Kill-kill> and why is that?
<CastroGiovanni> as I explained
<Kill-kill> "it happened to me"?
<CastroGiovanni> firstly because it doesn't matter that much that I do it, I'm still right
<CastroGiovanni> secondly because in the thread you were just in I was flamed
<CastroGiovanni> you took posts that proved your argument
<CastroGiovanni> and ignored ones that didn't
<Kill-kill> how are you right about an endemic wave of noob bashing if you can't provide one example
<CastroGiovanni> again, a typically childish move
<CastroGiovanni> but you are 15 so I can forgive it
<CastroGiovanni> the example is me?
<CastroGiovanni> I was a noob
<CastroGiovanni> I was flamed
<CastroGiovanni> one example
<CastroGiovanni> can you not grasp that?
<Kill-kill> as I have said at least twice, someone who makes a post like yours will be flamed irregardless of how long they have been here
<Kill-kill> it's not because you were a noob
<CastroGiovanni> obviously not
<Kill-kill> it's because you were a dick to another coach and then whined when you got in trouble for it
<CastroGiovanni> no
<Kill-kill> look at maznaz--member since 2004. he makes a post considered to be stupid/inappropriate, and he still got flamed
<CastroGiovanni> the coach was a dick to me
<Kill-kill> it went both ways--i'll give you that
<CastroGiovanni> I said he might want to kill himself
<CastroGiovanni> he went crying to admins
<CastroGiovanni> he got warned
<Kill-kill> you are the one who posted about it in the forum (yes, i know that wasn't your intent of the post, you still posted it)
<CastroGiovanni> because I produced screenshots and logs of the convo
<CastroGiovanni> no
<CastroGiovanni> again you are wrong
<Kill-kill> had he posted "castro told me to kill myself! waaah!" you would have seen a very similar thread
<CastroGiovanni> I put up with it in game
<CastroGiovanni> I said the quote
<CastroGiovanni> it isn't even a flame
<CastroGiovanni> it is a fact
<CastroGiovanni> he REALLY might want to think about it
<Kill-kill> ....
<CastroGiovanni> no I wouldn't
<Kill-kill> know anyone who has committed suicide?
<CastroGiovanni> I'd have seen a "who does this new guy think he is chatting shit like that" thread
<CastroGiovanni> and indeed
<CastroGiovanni> the proof of that
<CastroGiovanni> is you trying to make THIS thread into that
<CastroGiovanni> yes
<CastroGiovanni> again, the relevance is?
<Kill-kill> interesting that you are so casual about the subject
<CastroGiovanni> are we going to play that other kid card
<CastroGiovanni> "I had an XXXXX who killed themselves, you shouldn't joke about it?"
<CastroGiovanni> that one?
<Kill-kill> i considered it
<Kill-kill> and that is, in fact a legitimate point
<CastroGiovanni> I've had two very close friends commit suicide
<CastroGiovanni> well there we go then
<CastroGiovanni> IT IS NOT LEGITIMATE TO ANYTHING IN THE POST
<Kill-kill> however, it is not really necessary
<Kill-kill> that suicide is not something that should be joked about is a legitimate point--what i said
<CastroGiovanni> Believe me, every asshole I meet I would tell the same thing
<CastroGiovanni> why shouldn't it be joked about?
<CastroGiovanni> and why am I joking?
<CastroGiovanni> I said to him he should think about it IF abusing me in a game of BB was a high point of his life
<Kill-kill> there is a significant difference, at least in my mind, between joking face to face with someone who knows you are joking
<CastroGiovanni> it clearly was so he probably should
<CastroGiovanni> I wasn't joking so why are you talking about joking?
<CastroGiovanni> look
<CastroGiovanni> I'm trying to be decent
<Kill-kill> you're failing :-D
<CastroGiovanni> but you are a kid who thinks he is cleverer than he is
<CastroGiovanni> and you're talking to an adult
<Kill-kill> hmmm
<CastroGiovanni> you know nothing of life at 15
<Kill-kill> i see
<Kill-kill> the "i am older. I win" arguement
<Kill-kill> where have i seen you taking issue with this recently?
<CastroGiovanni> you think you're being intleligent and intellectual
<CastroGiovanni> but you're just not
<CastroGiovanni> you're not even arguing anything cohesively
<CastroGiovanni> you're just running on your own train of thought
<CastroGiovanni> nothing to do with anything
<CastroGiovanni> that conversation has nothing to do with the reason you're talking to me
<Kill-kill> which conversation?
<CastroGiovanni> lecturing me on whether suicide is suitable joking material has nothing to do with anything
<Kill-kill> and i agree--this conversation is not a cohesive arguement
<Kill-kill> this is a discussion about the thread, which has spread to other things related to it
<CastroGiovanni> telling me I'm wrong to joke when I wasn't joking has nothing to do with anything
<CastroGiovanni> so why are you typing still
<CastroGiovanni> not only are you wrong in what you're saying, what you're saying is irrelevant to the only reason you're talking to me
<Kill-kill> was the suicide bit related to noob welcoming? vaguely.
<CastroGiovanni> I can see why you had to message me though... You wanted a rise.
<CastroGiovanni> Which again, is childish
<Kill-kill> actually, I wanted to see if you had any legitimate things to say
<Kill-kill> and, as i have said, you have made some legitimate points
<CastroGiovanni> Now as much as I would like to try and make you see some sense it is clearly folly.
<CastroGiovanni> You are 15 and as such very limited in scope and capability
<Kill-kill> you have also made a complete ass of yourself, but hey, at least there were some legitimate points
<CastroGiovanni> So please, give it a rest and stop embarrassing yourself
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<Kill-kill> "Do more experienced coaches have a responsibility to lesser experiences ones?" yes, yes they do
<Kill-kill> i have answered your question. now, i am going to give you the benefit of assuming you had a follow up to this, so go ahead
<CastroGiovanni> no
<CastroGiovanni> So please, give it a rest and stop embarrassing yourself
<CastroGiovanni> that is the end of the conversation
<CastroGiovanni> please don't disturb me again
<Kill-kill> hehe--also a great way to "win" an arguement
<CastroGiovanni> I won by being right, you lost by being stupid
<CastroGiovanni> we're not having an argument now
<Kill-kill> :-D
<CastroGiovanni> you're trying to make out you're right about random things you are bringing up
<CastroGiovanni> when I don't care
<Kill-kill> well, since when i actually address your comments you seem to ignore that
<CastroGiovanni> please respect when I ask you not to message me
<CastroGiovanni> please respect when I ask you not to message me
<CastroGiovanni> Last request