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The zombie argument is a thought experiment that states "there is a possible world in which there exist zombies". Zombies are organisms that appear to have consciousness and qualia, but in reality do not. Also, in this case the zombies have to be identical copies of organisms in the actual or other possible world. It has been argued under reductive physicalism, that one must either believe that anyone including oneself might be a zombie, or that no one can be a zombie - following from the assertion that one's own conviction about being (or not being) a zombie is a product of the physical world and is therefore no different from anyone else's. This argument has been expressed by Dennett who argues that "Zombies think they are conscious, think they have qualia, think they suffer pains - they are just 'wrong' (according to this lamentable tradition), in ways that neither they nor we could ever discover!" The possibility of zombies would also entail that mental states do not supervene upon physical states, a claim that the reductionist physicalist is committed to, and Australian philosopher David Chalmers argues that the coherent conceivability of a zombie entails a metaphysical possibility. It has also been explained by arguing that the zombie argument rests on the concept of the nature of qualia. If certain non-physical properties exist which match our conception of qualia, then such non-physical properties would be qualia, and zombies would be conceivable and metaphysically possible. However, if there are no non-physical properties, then what we think of as qualia are the physical properties which perform the functional tasks of what we conceive of as qualia. In this scenario, zombies would not be metaphysically possible.

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Opponent	Race	TV	SPP	Cas	Gold	Score	TV	SPP	Cas	Gold	Gate
Earthians	Underworld Denizens	1000k	13	1/1/0	50k	1 - 1	1160k	8	0/0/0	80k	22k
Stripped Frogs	Slann	1030k	18	1/1/1	70k	2 - 0	1000k	6	0/0/0	10k	17k
Earthians	Underworld Denizens	1150k	17	1/0/1	30k	2 - 1	1240k	18	1/2/1	50k	15k
Cases for Amputation	Necromantic Horror	1200k	17	1/0/1	70k	3 - 0	1170k	7	1/0/0	50k	17k
New Rainbow of Serenity	Chaos Renegade	1250k	17	2/0/0	90k	2 - 0	1330k	11	1/1/0	40k	16k
Buena Vista Lucha Club	Human	1200k	12	1/1/0	60k	1 - 1	1150k	11	1/0/0	30k	19k
Great Shakes	Dark Elf	1310k	12	0/2/0	40k	1 - 2	1210k	14	1/1/0	30k	22k
Pretender's Challenge	Orc	1360k	13	1/0/0	60k	2 - 1	1280k	13	1/0/0	10k	26k
Great Shakes	Dark Elf	1400k	13	2/0/2	30k	0 - 3	1550k	25	3/1/0	70k	29k
Pretender's Challenge	Orc	1440k	9	0/0/2	50k	0 - 1	1470k	13	1/0/1	20k	23k
Great Shakes	Dark Elf	1460k	14	1/1/0	40k	1 - 3	1450k	20	0/1/0	50k	31k
Pretender's Challenge	Orc	1400k	10	2/0/0	50k	1 - 0	1370k	9	1/0/1	50k	29k
Great Shakes	Dark Elf	1490k	16	4/2/0	30k	1 - 2	1510k	23	2/2/0	60k	30k
Princess' Pastime	Chaos Dwarf	1370k	6	0/1/0	60k	0 - 2	1210k	13	0/1/0	70k	26k
Great Shakes	Dark Elf	1400k	11	1/2/1	10k	1 - 2	1520k	18	2/0/0	80k	31k
Great Shakes	Dark Elf	1480k	19	2/2/1	70k	2 - 0	1520k	6	1/0/0	70k	34k
Smog City Stragglers	High Elf	1490k	19	3/1/0	60k	2 - 1	1490k	11	0/0/0	30k	26k
Warriors of Lions	High Elf	1490k	11	1/0/0	40k	1 - 3	1470k	16	0/0/0	60k	27k
Impivaara Stalkers	Dark Elf	1500k	16	2/2/0	70k	2 - 0	1710k	9	0/0/1	30k	32k
Bitten Before it was Cool	Vampire	1550k	16	1/0/2	70k	2 - 1	1740k	16	3/1/1	40k	30k
Low Block Majors	Amazon	1450k	14	1/2/1	60k	0 - 4	1600k	24	1/1/1	60k	35k
Day of the Dog	Necromantic Horror	1440k	9	0/1/1	50k	0 - 1	1400k	18	4/1/0	20k	24k
Tzeentch's Transformation	Chaos Chosen	1470k	8	1/0/0	50k	0 - 3	1480k	19	1/0/1	70k	25k
Future Endeavors	Elven Union	1450k	17	2/1/0	60k	2 - 3	1330k	18	0/0/1	20k	17k
Golem Passing Skills	Necromantic Horror	1510k	12	0/2/0	80k	1 - 0	1370k	13	1/0/3	50k	21k
Goon Project	Chaos Renegade	1460k	5	0/0/0	20k	0 - 3	1510k	20	2/1/0	50k	27k
Tributes to Hunger	Necromantic Horror	1440k	10	0/1/0	60k	1 - 1	1440k	18	3/1/2	30k	20k