Posted by Carthage on 2023-12-06 19:09:54

Sisters of Sigmar is strongest I think. Northern Nippon, Black Dwarf and Earth Elemental in that same ballpark too. Dryad catch up quick with a few skills.
Next tier down would be water elemental, Kurgan, horcs DoSlaan, Necrach, Avelorn and Clan Eshin imo. Somewhere after that is like the nippon, cathay, araby level of just solid but not amazing.

I wanna say I've played probably 60-70% of the secret league rosters to this point

Posted by Java on 2023-12-06 19:25:51

Dryads

Posted by Storr on 2023-12-06 20:18:24

Clan Eshin

Posted by MerryZ on 2023-12-06 20:18:54

Nothing comes even close to Tzeentch Chaos.

Posted by JamesLangley on 2023-12-06 21:13:51

Daemons of Slaanesh are definitely up there just from their Big Guy alone. I believe Khainite Assassins had a very high ~60% win rate in the last edition, but the PA changes probably brought that down a bit if I had to guess. Other really good teams are Avelorn, Clan Eshin, Tzeentch, Isha, and Undead Pirates.

Posted by dementor42 on 2023-12-06 22:30:54

Northern Nippon and Clan Eshin seem strongest from the rosters I've played as/against

Posted by BaronBucky on 2023-12-07 00:38:49

Northern Nippon are real good.

Sisters of Sigmar are also really solid.

Posted by koadah on 2023-12-07 02:26:36

Some data

https://fumbbl.com/p/notes?op=view&id=9931

Posted by DaCrusha on 2023-12-07 03:07:34

thats really cool data. but i kind of feel like it is a bit skewed. especially since many of the teams have played less than 100 games and each of the games were played against one another, good teams have defeated weaker teams and got in many more games while losing teams likely got in fewer games many of which are loses further pushing down their win%

Posted by DaCrusha on 2023-12-07 03:09:34

overall i just feel there is not enough data. even with 1000s games played

Posted by Carthage on 2023-12-07 04:35:54

Yeah, considering I'm over a quarter of the Isha games alone and if you take just me out of that calculation they drop almost 10% WR immediately... These aren't really statistically significant. I think water elemental is being carried by fol with 47-3-7 too for instance.
But I guess it does lead to interesting investigations.

Posted by Habeli on 2023-12-07 07:42:29

About the data Koadah posted: Ogres are on 8th place and amazon on 16th place.
On https://fumbbl.com/p/rosterstats Fumbbl's stats Amazon are 1st place and ogres 2nd last only goblins are worse.
So there might be some caution needed interpreting those SL stats...

Posted by fol82 on 2023-12-07 08:30:14

I think every coach could say one different, cause every coach play different, but after play all secret legue teams.. the best for me are sisters of sigmar, khainite assasins, snakeman, kurgan, bretonnian but 1st (for me) for much, is elemental WATER.

Posted by fol82 on 2023-12-07 08:37:52

looking this data...

i have with elemental water 56-7-6.. so almost half of the games are mine hehe

Posted by koadah on 2023-12-07 10:56:20

It is what it is.
I specifically said "data" not "stats". ;)

If you folks want it to have more meaning you'll just have to play more games with more teams and encourage more people to play more games with more teams. :D

Perhaps we need a Secret League BBT. ;)

Posted by mayhemzz22 on 2023-12-07 15:08:32

Secret league BBT would be awesome

Posted by fol82 on 2023-12-07 17:48:24

if you want people play all races, then made a cups by background is an optoin.

only for clan skavens, other for undead teams, other for elven kingdom, etc.. for all togheter too, but its only a idea (and maybe wrong)

i played all races cause i want try to win at least one game with all, and i made it, from elemental water to treeman. but now only play the best for me. if you made a skavens clans trophy i cant play with elem water and ill play with mors for example.

in the end, people who play secret league, love play and nothing more.

Posted by Carthage on 2023-12-07 20:37:17

For those that didn't know there are actual secret league... leagues where you can play them in a more competitive environment. Razmus runs a great Secret League America one for instance that is about halfway through its season. The more the merrier!

Posted by JimmyFantastic on 2023-12-08 11:40:53

I've looked at the Eshin list and can't believe any of the others are better lol.

Posted by sokeeffe on 2023-12-08 13:15:25

CIBBL of course is one of the premier secret league roster based leagues!
https://fumbbl.com/p/group?op=view&group=10455


Already into year 11 (each year is four seasons), we have had pretty much all the SL rosters played at some point.

Some standouts in past years:
Nippon
Daemons of Nurgle
Avelorn
Slaanesh
Wood Elves
Zandri
Fimir
Norse Dwarf
Fire Elementals