OK, I lose a lot, I admit it, but do I blame myself?? No! I blame the game. Do we really need 8 turns in each half I have to ask you? If I'm winning a game, they score to draw the game in the 8th turn of the 2nd half. If I'm drawing a game they score to win in the 8th turn of the 2nd half. It's not me, it's that 8th turn which kills my win/loss record. StrongStyle, leading the call for a 7 turn game!