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2014-11-06 15:08:47
4 votes, rating 6
4 votes, rating 6
Why don't champions have more fans?
Although I have been a member of fumbbl since 2008, I only restarted playing a couple of months ago and only progressed from losing nearly ever match in past few weeks.
Now I am thrilled to make it to the play offs in my first tournament the O[L]C Free-For-All, and maybe compete in the FUMBBL Cup, so much so that I checked out the other tournaments throughout the year in anticipation of what's to come.
The tournaments are great, but the one thing that struck me as a bit weird or off was there doesn't seem to be any mention of Fan Factor. Of course with the amount of wins required to progress and ultimately win in a tournament, Fan Factor is likely to rise naturally, but shouldn't winning a tournament or even getting to finals provide a definite boost?
I think a Fan Factor bonus for teams that succeed in tournaments might be a cool addition that wouldn't add any major imbalance. It could even be quite high like +5 for winning a major tournament, which of course would open opportunities to reach otherwise impossibly high levels which would also nigh-impossible to maintain. The fans will expect nothing less than victory every game. Anything less and those fair-weather fans will dwindle. And of course, the only way for teams to return to such dizzying heights of celebrity would be to win another tournament.
So how about a FF bonus for teams progressing in tournaments? +1 for playoffs and another +1 for each round survived/won? +3-5 for winning a major trophy like the Black Cup or FUMBBL cup?
Now I am thrilled to make it to the play offs in my first tournament the O[L]C Free-For-All, and maybe compete in the FUMBBL Cup, so much so that I checked out the other tournaments throughout the year in anticipation of what's to come.
The tournaments are great, but the one thing that struck me as a bit weird or off was there doesn't seem to be any mention of Fan Factor. Of course with the amount of wins required to progress and ultimately win in a tournament, Fan Factor is likely to rise naturally, but shouldn't winning a tournament or even getting to finals provide a definite boost?
I think a Fan Factor bonus for teams that succeed in tournaments might be a cool addition that wouldn't add any major imbalance. It could even be quite high like +5 for winning a major tournament, which of course would open opportunities to reach otherwise impossibly high levels which would also nigh-impossible to maintain. The fans will expect nothing less than victory every game. Anything less and those fair-weather fans will dwindle. And of course, the only way for teams to return to such dizzying heights of celebrity would be to win another tournament.
So how about a FF bonus for teams progressing in tournaments? +1 for playoffs and another +1 for each round survived/won? +3-5 for winning a major trophy like the Black Cup or FUMBBL cup?
Comments
Posted by Garion on 2014-11-06 15:22:02
The problem with Fan Factor increasing is people dont want it to. It costs you TV to have Fan Factor so there comes a point where its actually just a waste of TV. Having it as a prize would probably deter people from playing in that tournament and they would choose a tournament where your FF did not increase.
Posted by koadah on 2014-11-06 15:47:35
Nice bit of bragging there Rags. :)
You should also say some nasty things about Brasky's mother in case you win through to face him for the heavyweight Championship. ;)
But yeah, we don't want yer stinkin' FF. It's nuffin but trouble. ;)
You should also say some nasty things about Brasky's mother in case you win through to face him for the heavyweight Championship. ;)
But yeah, we don't want yer stinkin' FF. It's nuffin but trouble. ;)
Posted by Cavetroll on 2014-11-06 16:21:11
Fan Favorite, on the other hand, would be a nice prize for majors.
Posted by cdassak on 2014-11-06 16:23:56
Yeah, he won't be bragging after he faces the UnstopaBulls though :P
Posted by pythrr on 2014-11-06 18:03:30
filthy bloat like fatt on western wimmins
Posted by Russo on 2014-11-06 18:19:24
....or pythrr's waistline....
:-)
:-)
Posted by Cavetroll on 2014-11-06 18:44:14
Russo, you know entirely too much about pythrr's waistline...
Posted by the_Sage on 2014-11-06 20:03:11
We should have this, yes. But not before implementing the house-rule 'fan factor does not weigh towards TV'. Which we should also have (it's as much a house-rule as cards, or even allowing inducements in the first place).
Posted by Rags on 2014-11-06 22:43:31
I think the extra fair weather fans being more of a burden than anything works quite well keeps with the theme. As for weenies who are worried about +3TV on already accomplished team tournament might benefit from the absence and attract coaches with a bit more of the grit that Blood Bowl is supposed to be founded on.
An alternative could an awesome prize (not FF) something a bit different from other tournaments, offset by a mega FF boost which would actually act as ahandicap. Whatever the prize was would prob have to temporary too, but then in Blood Bowl just about everything is temporary, so that shouldn't be too hard.
As for bragging before/after who I might face, I let the touchdowns do the talking but even that doesn't halt the flow of Unstoppabullshit
An alternative could an awesome prize (not FF) something a bit different from other tournaments, offset by a mega FF boost which would actually act as ahandicap. Whatever the prize was would prob have to temporary too, but then in Blood Bowl just about everything is temporary, so that shouldn't be too hard.
As for bragging before/after who I might face, I let the touchdowns do the talking but even that doesn't halt the flow of Unstoppabullshit
Posted by pythrr on 2014-11-06 22:49:33
phrasing!
Posted by the_Sage on 2014-11-06 23:41:06
I like fluff. And I like rules. I like it fine when both make sense, and best they make sense together.
The fluff is that you win more, and get more fans. Good.
The rules are that you win more, and get a handicap. Debatable, but can see the point (which is why the handicap part is optional per the rules)
However, giving more of that same handicap for winning a tournament may be fun fluff, but it's bad rules. A nice tournament prize would be giving a player fan favorite (ideally for 0 TV imo). That gives you an effect like fans, and it's temporary.
The fluff is that you win more, and get more fans. Good.
The rules are that you win more, and get a handicap. Debatable, but can see the point (which is why the handicap part is optional per the rules)
However, giving more of that same handicap for winning a tournament may be fun fluff, but it's bad rules. A nice tournament prize would be giving a player fan favorite (ideally for 0 TV imo). That gives you an effect like fans, and it's temporary.
Posted by Rags on 2014-11-07 00:11:03
Actually looking at it Fan Favorite is already part of prize package for Grotty & Ulthuan so maybe wiser heads have already thought this through
Posted by Cloggy on 2014-11-07 07:28:52
I don't like the idea of free FF for teams that win a lot. It might make sense from a fluff perspective, but I see no reason why throwns rocks and extra rerolls should almost exclusively go to the favorite in a **cough** cherrypicked matchup.
Posted by Verminardo on 2014-11-07 10:11:15
Well theoretically it would be possible to add a "Champion Bonus" that is applied to FF for the specatators roll etc. but does not count towards TV and is not considered when rolling for FF increase or decrease. However, I don't really see that it is needed. It's a rather minor and solely fluff based point, plus the prices already awarded to Major champions already give them quite an edge in some cases, no need to improve them further.