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2010-02-18 12:58:31
73 votes, rating 2.7
73 votes, rating 2.7
Time for a change?
I`m in a foul mood since yesterday night`s match. Apparently I completely lack social competence. Tough match, tourney final - I snapped and went on full tilt, whining and ranting.
As usual, the trigger were comments of my opponent, that I interpreted as "Killing your team is my primary objective" combined with dice in his favor. After the match I realized, that I had massively overreacted. I apologized and explained myself, but apparently I offended him so much that he wouldn`t accept. I only earned the usual mocking and hating from a few select morally superior coaches.
Now the problem is, that I know that given the same circumstances, I will most likely react the same way. Every time my opponent goes "That`s game" and then "Lets see if I can take some of your players with me" I really get pissed. I just can`t stand the "I break your toys because you beat me" attitude, no matter if my opponent really thinks that way, because it`s the way I perceive it. Yes, I`m a pansy pixelhugger, because i honestly don`t want to spend more time in recovery games than I have to - which I guess I share with the majority of coaches. I get even more pissed at such a thing, when I play a fragile team against bashers. I have greater risk for team integrity anyhow. In a tournament, that`s even more frustrating, as keeping your team in shape is much more important.
Multiple factors amplified yesterdays event:
- I was frustrated before I started the match
- dice were significantly in my opponents favor (I`m pretty sure that is not my imagination). I had the feeling that I was given open shots on the ball and still I had to work really and needed multiple tries to capitalize on it, whereas my opponent had his TD handed by a combination of a perfect kick, fail blocks and snakes. Then followed by a blitz on the all-important drive.
- the same shit happend the same guy for the second time. First round I had the pleasure to play someone who mid game only played to maim and the semi-final featured the same situation - fail dice on my side leading to the equalizer and then they rolled a blitz.
- little feedback except tons of boo. I was doing most of the chatting, so I enraged myself.
I try to be a polite and nice opponent. I have no clue if I succeed at least occasionally at this. From what I gather, I fail most of the time. Probably because I`m an ass and so many coaches enjoy doing exactly the thing that pisses me off.
At the moment I am considering multiple options:
A) Leave FUMBBL
Apparently the site is better off without me. At least that is the impression I get from quite a few coaches.
Downside: I really like this place and this game.
B) Confine myself to high AV bashers
This would greatly reduce the likelyhood of opponents being outscored early and shifting focus towards maiming. I`m not the frail team in a match and usually if I win big, my opponent isn`t in a situation to massively threaten my team.
Downside: I like playing elves and I feel even more bashy team is the last thing the site needs.
C) Remove the chat from the game.
If I don`t chat, I cannot offend anyone gravely. I can play the box and tourneys with the PM system alone and I can disable the in-game chat and the emotes.
Downside: Chatting about the game is part of the game.
D) Move on like nothing happend
I simply accept that I`m disliked/hated by some/many/most coaches.
Downside: I continue to alienate coaches. I rather be somewhere where I am appreciated.
So far I`m swaying between all those options, but none really seems to be a solution. I`m frustrated and I probably won`t play more matches than I have to until that frustration fades.
As usual, the trigger were comments of my opponent, that I interpreted as "Killing your team is my primary objective" combined with dice in his favor. After the match I realized, that I had massively overreacted. I apologized and explained myself, but apparently I offended him so much that he wouldn`t accept. I only earned the usual mocking and hating from a few select morally superior coaches.
Now the problem is, that I know that given the same circumstances, I will most likely react the same way. Every time my opponent goes "That`s game" and then "Lets see if I can take some of your players with me" I really get pissed. I just can`t stand the "I break your toys because you beat me" attitude, no matter if my opponent really thinks that way, because it`s the way I perceive it. Yes, I`m a pansy pixelhugger, because i honestly don`t want to spend more time in recovery games than I have to - which I guess I share with the majority of coaches. I get even more pissed at such a thing, when I play a fragile team against bashers. I have greater risk for team integrity anyhow. In a tournament, that`s even more frustrating, as keeping your team in shape is much more important.
Multiple factors amplified yesterdays event:
- I was frustrated before I started the match
- dice were significantly in my opponents favor (I`m pretty sure that is not my imagination). I had the feeling that I was given open shots on the ball and still I had to work really and needed multiple tries to capitalize on it, whereas my opponent had his TD handed by a combination of a perfect kick, fail blocks and snakes. Then followed by a blitz on the all-important drive.
- the same shit happend the same guy for the second time. First round I had the pleasure to play someone who mid game only played to maim and the semi-final featured the same situation - fail dice on my side leading to the equalizer and then they rolled a blitz.
- little feedback except tons of boo. I was doing most of the chatting, so I enraged myself.
I try to be a polite and nice opponent. I have no clue if I succeed at least occasionally at this. From what I gather, I fail most of the time. Probably because I`m an ass and so many coaches enjoy doing exactly the thing that pisses me off.
At the moment I am considering multiple options:
A) Leave FUMBBL
Apparently the site is better off without me. At least that is the impression I get from quite a few coaches.
Downside: I really like this place and this game.
B) Confine myself to high AV bashers
This would greatly reduce the likelyhood of opponents being outscored early and shifting focus towards maiming. I`m not the frail team in a match and usually if I win big, my opponent isn`t in a situation to massively threaten my team.
Downside: I like playing elves and I feel even more bashy team is the last thing the site needs.
C) Remove the chat from the game.
If I don`t chat, I cannot offend anyone gravely. I can play the box and tourneys with the PM system alone and I can disable the in-game chat and the emotes.
Downside: Chatting about the game is part of the game.
D) Move on like nothing happend
I simply accept that I`m disliked/hated by some/many/most coaches.
Downside: I continue to alienate coaches. I rather be somewhere where I am appreciated.
So far I`m swaying between all those options, but none really seems to be a solution. I`m frustrated and I probably won`t play more matches than I have to until that frustration fades.
Comments
Posted by Calthor on 2010-02-18 13:04:14
Circ,
Point is, this game is meant to be fun. That is why you were being booed - it seems like in these matches, you are losing the ability to ENJOY the game. Yes, sometimes the dice are against you, and sometimes they are with you. There is no such thing as dice being equally fair to both coaches, dice never are.
My advice? D, but with the difference of trying to enjoy your games more. You'll automatically start being liked more if you enjoy the game more.
Point is, this game is meant to be fun. That is why you were being booed - it seems like in these matches, you are losing the ability to ENJOY the game. Yes, sometimes the dice are against you, and sometimes they are with you. There is no such thing as dice being equally fair to both coaches, dice never are.
My advice? D, but with the difference of trying to enjoy your games more. You'll automatically start being liked more if you enjoy the game more.
Posted by Ravenmore on 2010-02-18 13:14:30
I vote A) and rated 1 since you're such a drama queen :)
On a diffrent note: these "I went berserk" blogs are on the rise recently.
On a diffrent note: these "I went berserk" blogs are on the rise recently.
Posted by Nemeton on 2010-02-18 13:19:45
Definitely D, people only hate/love you because your a damned good coach, and if they do because of single episodes instead of general behavior, then they need to relax and think things over.
Hell everybody needs to relax more, sure you probably went too far, but at least you tried to apologize afterwards. Nobody should take anything said online serious, so while you might have gone too far, not accepting the apology is just as bad, or maybe just a bit childish.
I promise that if I manage to get far enough to face you in the Tour you can flame me all you want ingame and it won't bother me because I ignore any negative ranting and flaming. But I need to get far enough for that to happen ;-)
Hell everybody needs to relax more, sure you probably went too far, but at least you tried to apologize afterwards. Nobody should take anything said online serious, so while you might have gone too far, not accepting the apology is just as bad, or maybe just a bit childish.
I promise that if I manage to get far enough to face you in the Tour you can flame me all you want ingame and it won't bother me because I ignore any negative ranting and flaming. But I need to get far enough for that to happen ;-)
Posted by Frankenstein on 2010-02-18 13:31:12
I mean, you were whining, crying, moaning and complaining (not to mention insulting your opponent) about an allegedly massive shafting while you
1) were leading 1-0 as the kicking team, while your opponent had no realistic chance to score in his second drive either.
2) were leading 2-1 on injuries (it was his beastman who was in the RIP box), despite Claw/RSC
3) were the only player with an apoth left
4) were the only player with a wizard
5) would be the receiving team in the second half
And you honestly got the nerves to claim that specs booing you would do that because you were playing dark elfs?
I actually rooted for you the game before, but now I really hope you won't win the CoS due to your outrageous, horribly offensive conduct.
I mean, seriously, if you had been totally shafted there, as you insisted, then I'd love to get totally shafted myself here once in a while.
Of the options given, I think you should choose C (I do that myself as a countermeasure towards such behaviour, occasionally), with A and B being valid choices as well. I do, however, predict that it will be unfortunately be D, after all.
If you want to be appreciated, then just stop being a total jerk when you are not entirely dominating a game (aka shafting your opponent) from turn 1 to 16. It's that easy, actually.
And yes, I am fully aware that I suffer from the same disease to some extent.
1) were leading 1-0 as the kicking team, while your opponent had no realistic chance to score in his second drive either.
2) were leading 2-1 on injuries (it was his beastman who was in the RIP box), despite Claw/RSC
3) were the only player with an apoth left
4) were the only player with a wizard
5) would be the receiving team in the second half
And you honestly got the nerves to claim that specs booing you would do that because you were playing dark elfs?
I actually rooted for you the game before, but now I really hope you won't win the CoS due to your outrageous, horribly offensive conduct.
I mean, seriously, if you had been totally shafted there, as you insisted, then I'd love to get totally shafted myself here once in a while.
Of the options given, I think you should choose C (I do that myself as a countermeasure towards such behaviour, occasionally), with A and B being valid choices as well. I do, however, predict that it will be unfortunately be D, after all.
If you want to be appreciated, then just stop being a total jerk when you are not entirely dominating a game (aka shafting your opponent) from turn 1 to 16. It's that easy, actually.
And yes, I am fully aware that I suffer from the same disease to some extent.
Posted by maysrill on 2010-02-18 13:35:01
D) is tempting, but a dash of B) might help your attitude more for a while. Especially playing in Blackbox, there are coaches who only have the options to dice you or lose (I'm not half bad myself, IMO, and I don't see outplaying you as an option), and look to take something away from the game, as in "hey, I lost to CL, but look what I did to his team *strut*".
My temporary fix would be to either:
-play some orcs/dwarfs/khemri for a while, and just smash your way to wins
or
-make some norse, skaven, or stunties and play kamikaze and not care about them living, just winning
The same attitude bothering you gets to me too, though since I don't win as often I probably don't see it as much. For me it usually lasts a day or so, or until a really fun match puts it behind me.
My temporary fix would be to either:
-play some orcs/dwarfs/khemri for a while, and just smash your way to wins
or
-make some norse, skaven, or stunties and play kamikaze and not care about them living, just winning
The same attitude bothering you gets to me too, though since I don't win as often I probably don't see it as much. For me it usually lasts a day or so, or until a really fun match puts it behind me.
Posted by eyeslikethunder on 2010-02-18 13:35:16
I know your pain circ when your opponent just wants to kill your team as a small revenge on your victory. but to some thats the fun of the game killing some 200spp uberelf. I think this mentality is also greater in the box as a lot the coaches who were dodged in ranked due to there attitude and play style went there. Also to be fair to your opponents the best way to beat elves is to remove them from the field. I play elves a lot ive won games with only 3 players on the field 12 turns of the game
You have to let go of your pixels and feel the Power of the BLOODbowl. If you learn to let them go it took me a long time. but if you do i 'm sure you will and learn to laugh at your good luck and bad. You will find that more games are fun for you and your opponent. I played Vicius last night in smack final and he did not have the best of luck but he laughed at it.
This what you should do learn to let go of your players you are great coach enjoy it
You have to let go of your pixels and feel the Power of the BLOODbowl. If you learn to let them go it took me a long time. but if you do i 'm sure you will and learn to laugh at your good luck and bad. You will find that more games are fun for you and your opponent. I played Vicius last night in smack final and he did not have the best of luck but he laughed at it.
This what you should do learn to let go of your players you are great coach enjoy it
Posted by f_alk on 2010-02-18 13:35:19
Take
- Start to see that this is only a game and not the real life. Don't let a game dictate your mood - if it is that far already, then I urge you to quit until you got over that addiction. Realise that the sun outside shines regardles of bloodbowl.
- Stop hugging your pixels - so to get used to it play Skaven w/o GRs in [B].
- Get used to it that people enjoy to see giants falling, that's very natural and a very human behavior. If you can't stand that, then try not to be a top coach anymore. If you are overly competitive, see the top point and use your energy for something that does matter.
- Just relax.
- Learn to accept that from the top there is only one way: DOWN!
- Start to see that this is only a game and not the real life. Don't let a game dictate your mood - if it is that far already, then I urge you to quit until you got over that addiction. Realise that the sun outside shines regardles of bloodbowl.
- Stop hugging your pixels - so to get used to it play Skaven w/o GRs in [B].
- Get used to it that people enjoy to see giants falling, that's very natural and a very human behavior. If you can't stand that, then try not to be a top coach anymore. If you are overly competitive, see the top point and use your energy for something that does matter.
- Just relax.
- Learn to accept that from the top there is only one way: DOWN!
Posted by Hero164 on 2010-02-18 13:44:05
Take D, you'll get over it. Quitting is for lamers. No one ever really cahnges and a good whine now and then is good for the soul.
Just accept that there are people out there that will destroy teams. They dont win tourneys though!
Just accept that there are people out there that will destroy teams. They dont win tourneys though!
Posted by BVZRoma on 2010-02-18 13:47:48
I understand yr frustration because in my game counter losses are for sure more than wins. And not all are due to my enourmous lacks. I think that the fault is in some latent hipocrysy by coaches, oftentimes too similar to the above descibed guys -you broke my toys...I'll kick your figurines. Nobody here accept easily to lose, and fewer admit that sometimes the opposing coach played better or dazzled him with some strange stuff. It's a dice game after all. Another cause by my opinion is the hypercompetitivism shown by many coaches, too much focused on their rank position to forget oftentimes that bloodbowl is more than all the chatting with friends, the drinking a beer during game and smiling together. First step is for sure reminding ourselves that fumbbl is fun, not olympics. Second is (beginning ourselves) to behave better and -think I'm a fool, but I'm trying beginning myself- like true gentlemen, not regarding twisted nerves for unmerited losses or too hevily cas suffered. Third, go ahead with D option. Playng here on fumbbl helped me a lot to learn how dominate my temper and my nerves for a game that could make me disgrunt. If I've not become a better coach here, for sure I dare to say I've become a better person, more honest and calm, and more eager to listen critics. At the end of the day is just a game, and if I have to thank someone are the people that shewn the same attitude described above making me love this site. I wrote this too long post to thank them and to remind myself and all "just take easy". See ya on the field.
Posted by f_alk on 2010-02-18 13:51:00
I just watched the replay. It seems like you are describing a different match here.
If you are right, and you whined during that match, then you should quit. Not because the site would be better of without you, but because you need to recalibrate your senses urgently.
Do something where you are a total noob and lack talent, so you can learn humbleness.
If you are right, and you whined during that match, then you should quit. Not because the site would be better of without you, but because you need to recalibrate your senses urgently.
Do something where you are a total noob and lack talent, so you can learn humbleness.
Posted by Fela on 2010-02-18 13:52:20
You might consider disabling spec sounds when the unjustified booing/cheering gets out of hand.
Posted by Juff on 2010-02-18 13:53:59
Why do you feel the need 'to be appreciated'?
Play BB if you enjoy playing BB. Don't if you do not.
Play BB if you enjoy playing BB. Don't if you do not.
Posted by Kalamona on 2010-02-18 14:07:17
u need to play stunty...
Posted by SeraphimRed on 2010-02-18 14:13:35
Can't be arsed to read all the comments - the blog was dull enough.
I vote :
e) Care less, have fun with the game. You take yourself and this waaaay too serious me thinks. :P
I vote :
e) Care less, have fun with the game. You take yourself and this waaaay too serious me thinks. :P
Posted by dpwright on 2010-02-18 14:17:32
Well, seeing as the match was against me, I'd best throw my tuppenceworth in.
Don't leave the site. That would be two massive overreactions in 24 hours.
I didn't refuse the apology; I just don't want to actively play you again unless I have to.
Go back and read your blog entry again; you spend a lot of time justifying your actions. Don't. If you truly want to change, then simply accept that you need to and then do it.
That's all. Good luck in the future and I hope you manage to feel less stressed next time.
Don't leave the site. That would be two massive overreactions in 24 hours.
I didn't refuse the apology; I just don't want to actively play you again unless I have to.
Go back and read your blog entry again; you spend a lot of time justifying your actions. Don't. If you truly want to change, then simply accept that you need to and then do it.
That's all. Good luck in the future and I hope you manage to feel less stressed next time.
Posted by Shraaaag on 2010-02-18 14:26:52
Most gamers (playing multiplayer games) end up in your position at some point. Sometimes a small break helps, no point in leaving if you're still enjoying the game.
I'd go for:
F) Realise that it's a game, and there's no point in getting frustrated over it. Eat a huge cake/pie, forget the match, continue playing FUMBBL and have more fun than before.
I'd go for:
F) Realise that it's a game, and there's no point in getting frustrated over it. Eat a huge cake/pie, forget the match, continue playing FUMBBL and have more fun than before.
Posted by CircularLogic on 2010-02-18 14:32:10
I have thought about this and I have come to the conclusion, that I cannot change who I am. I am competitive in games by nature. If I could change, the I would have long ago, because this isn`t a new problem.
Thus I have to live with it and I`m unsure how. I don`t justify - because the action was wrong no matter why I acted how I acted. I just posted how I 'work', because info might be important (also for me to write it down) to make a decision.
You didn`t refuse my apology, you didn`t accept it either. You gave me a one liner, telling me that you rather not waste your time playing me. Which is understandable.
Thus I have to live with it and I`m unsure how. I don`t justify - because the action was wrong no matter why I acted how I acted. I just posted how I 'work', because info might be important (also for me to write it down) to make a decision.
You didn`t refuse my apology, you didn`t accept it either. You gave me a one liner, telling me that you rather not waste your time playing me. Which is understandable.
Posted by fly on 2010-02-18 14:39:52
take a break. it helps!
Posted by Ballcrusher on 2010-02-18 14:40:41
It seems you don't really appreciate blood bowl for what it is: A fun bloody game where you're supposed to beat up the other players and where there's a lot of chance and dice, which makes the game fun and unpredictable.
My advice would be to stop playing tournaments if it gets you so frustrated, stop playing those boring recovery games (where you get sad when a player dies because it means 10 more boring recovery games) and instead play some funny games - maybe stunty or whatever makes your heart happy with lots of fouls just for the fun of it.
BB is just a game and it's supposed to be fun.
My advice would be to stop playing tournaments if it gets you so frustrated, stop playing those boring recovery games (where you get sad when a player dies because it means 10 more boring recovery games) and instead play some funny games - maybe stunty or whatever makes your heart happy with lots of fouls just for the fun of it.
BB is just a game and it's supposed to be fun.
Posted by svemole on 2010-02-18 14:45:30
If you feel you need to improve your sportmanship behavior. Why not make a team and play it only with the goal to be a good opponent. State it on your teamprofile and ask your opponent afterwards if you failed in any way and keep a score.
Practise makes perfect and it will be a hard challenge i think. I know for sure that i failed more times than i like to admit when things havent gone my way.
Practise makes perfect and it will be a hard challenge i think. I know for sure that i failed more times than i like to admit when things havent gone my way.
Posted by Woodstock on 2010-02-18 14:48:26
Didn't read all the replies, but a combination of A and D.
Just take a week off, enjoy life, get a beer with friends. Come back, learn from your mistakes, and move on.
Just take a week off, enjoy life, get a beer with friends. Come back, learn from your mistakes, and move on.
Posted by valkalis on 2010-02-18 14:51:27
Here's my advice:
PLAY MUNCHKIN
and embrace the lessons that game has to teach :D
PLAY MUNCHKIN
and embrace the lessons that game has to teach :D
Posted by maznaz on 2010-02-18 14:57:28
Two words: Chill out. Whatever helps you do that should be your primary goal in this case.
Posted by mymLaban on 2010-02-18 16:17:09
lol? move on all ready
Posted by Optihut on 2010-02-18 16:17:20
Read my blog entries "Bloodbowl fun" and "find your own style".
From the options listed, D clearly is the best choice for you.
From the options listed, D clearly is the best choice for you.
Posted by JHassler on 2010-02-18 17:00:36
I believe a lot of us miss the point here regarding Circ...
Circ, I think the very thing that drives you also drives you crazy. It is in your very nature (you can tame it to a degree if you just step back and sypmathize with the position of your opponent... but not the point to my reply).
Going to stunty or playing some "fun and meaningless" games just doesn't thrill/anger you the same way as being in a highly competitive environment. You need to analyze your every move (and the moves of your opponent where you scratch your head and say "why the hell is he doing that?")
So, keep doing what you find fun even if it challenges your nerves, because that is what - at the end of the day - will make you feel satisfied, not neccesarily happy, but satisfied. In the meantime, remember the guy on the other side of the screen/table and that he is there to have fun (and usually not as competitive as you are).
I personally enjoy your banter in the forums regarding formations, formulas, and skill selections. It is more insight than most of us will muster, that I am sure of.
Circ, I think the very thing that drives you also drives you crazy. It is in your very nature (you can tame it to a degree if you just step back and sypmathize with the position of your opponent... but not the point to my reply).
Going to stunty or playing some "fun and meaningless" games just doesn't thrill/anger you the same way as being in a highly competitive environment. You need to analyze your every move (and the moves of your opponent where you scratch your head and say "why the hell is he doing that?")
So, keep doing what you find fun even if it challenges your nerves, because that is what - at the end of the day - will make you feel satisfied, not neccesarily happy, but satisfied. In the meantime, remember the guy on the other side of the screen/table and that he is there to have fun (and usually not as competitive as you are).
I personally enjoy your banter in the forums regarding formations, formulas, and skill selections. It is more insight than most of us will muster, that I am sure of.
Posted by Jeffro on 2010-02-18 17:33:42
Hear hear, JHassler... I'll second what he said.
And to add my own two cents - seriously, Circ... if you can't understand why the everyday rube would boo the coach with the 185CR and root for the underdog, then you need to direct some of your excess intellect in that regard. You can't see the boos as an attack on your personal character (like people do to lawman ;) rather, eat those boos like they're fresh warm pudding and relish every mouthful.
:)
And to add my own two cents - seriously, Circ... if you can't understand why the everyday rube would boo the coach with the 185CR and root for the underdog, then you need to direct some of your excess intellect in that regard. You can't see the boos as an attack on your personal character (like people do to lawman ;) rather, eat those boos like they're fresh warm pudding and relish every mouthful.
:)
Posted by Rawlf on 2010-02-18 17:52:05
You might want to consider that you are suffering from a narcissistic disorder. If so, it is possible and probably advisable to work against it.
But not in a FUMBBL blog, for many reasons.
But not in a FUMBBL blog, for many reasons.
Posted by DukeTyrion on 2010-02-18 17:56:00
Every coach over 170 CR gets boo's to a greater or lesser degree, it's part of the territory.
As for getting angry in game. If you feel you are not in a particularly good mood, say 'Hi, have fun' at the start of the game, hide chat until your opponent scores, so you can say 'Congratz' and keep your anger on your side of the keyboard.
Turn off Emotes, since they are only ever likely to worsen your mood.
If you feel it's only worth playing the game, if it's done exactly right, then play that way. Different people play for different reason ... Stunty for Mayhem, Blackbox for Challenge, League for fun with friends, Ranked for various reason, but if you have found the game you like to play, then play it whilst you still enjoy it.
One of the real character on this site is Calcium and in one of our matches he told me he was having a bad day so wasn't going to chat much, which was great. It mean't I knew there wouldn't be much banter on that day, but also he was able to chill out a little more without getting more wound up as the game progressed.#
You are not the first high CR coach to go through this and you will not be the last, so if I were you I would turn off emotes and avoid chatting on days where you are already stressed.
As for getting angry in game. If you feel you are not in a particularly good mood, say 'Hi, have fun' at the start of the game, hide chat until your opponent scores, so you can say 'Congratz' and keep your anger on your side of the keyboard.
Turn off Emotes, since they are only ever likely to worsen your mood.
If you feel it's only worth playing the game, if it's done exactly right, then play that way. Different people play for different reason ... Stunty for Mayhem, Blackbox for Challenge, League for fun with friends, Ranked for various reason, but if you have found the game you like to play, then play it whilst you still enjoy it.
One of the real character on this site is Calcium and in one of our matches he told me he was having a bad day so wasn't going to chat much, which was great. It mean't I knew there wouldn't be much banter on that day, but also he was able to chill out a little more without getting more wound up as the game progressed.#
You are not the first high CR coach to go through this and you will not be the last, so if I were you I would turn off emotes and avoid chatting on days where you are already stressed.
Posted by Nighteye on 2010-02-18 18:24:11
So many small penises on display in these answers.
For ANYONE to start considering his actions and why he reacts a certain way is good. This goes for all aspects of life including Fumbbl of course.
So cut the guy some slack trying to figure things out.
I wont pretend I know the answer to your current dillema, you have to come up with that answer yourself.
For ANYONE to start considering his actions and why he reacts a certain way is good. This goes for all aspects of life including Fumbbl of course.
So cut the guy some slack trying to figure things out.
I wont pretend I know the answer to your current dillema, you have to come up with that answer yourself.
Posted by Calcium on 2010-02-18 19:21:00
Bollocks to them circ. Option D for sure. You're as human as the rest of us, albeit a much better coach!
Posted by treborius on 2010-02-18 19:29:16
Circ: suck it up, start playing Khemri for a while and find joy in the violent aspects of bloodbowl (as well) - then, when you've started to not care about a lost game ('not saying you shouldn't try to win) and have lost track of your CR, BWR or whatever start playing those competitive races, again :-)
To me, there's nothing more relaxing than coming home from work and playing (or watching) an absolutely brutal match of blood-bowl with some boots in it ;-)
Of course I got teams, as well, which i like to develop and it hurts to loose good players on those, but I just don't play those when I don't feel ready for it.
Besides that: Relax and don't let that crowd get to you (even when I'm on it ;-)
To me, there's nothing more relaxing than coming home from work and playing (or watching) an absolutely brutal match of blood-bowl with some boots in it ;-)
Of course I got teams, as well, which i like to develop and it hurts to loose good players on those, but I just don't play those when I don't feel ready for it.
Besides that: Relax and don't let that crowd get to you (even when I'm on it ;-)
Posted by spubbbba on 2010-02-18 19:32:37
I spec'd all that game and think I need to correct some inaccuracies in your blog.
Your opponent did not go out of his way to wreck your team, he was 1-0, being out cas'd with the elves recieving and an apoth left and a wiz as back up.
Most coaches would think the game was lost by then and try to get some spp's to re-build the team in any way they could which for a chaos team is by cas.
The chaos got the ref but rather than going on a foul fest they went after the ball and were rewarded with a lucky break and TD putting them back in the game.
People will always support the underdog and want to see elves die, but most of your boo's were down to you complaining all through the game and being a bad sport.
Your opponent did not go out of his way to wreck your team, he was 1-0, being out cas'd with the elves recieving and an apoth left and a wiz as back up.
Most coaches would think the game was lost by then and try to get some spp's to re-build the team in any way they could which for a chaos team is by cas.
The chaos got the ref but rather than going on a foul fest they went after the ball and were rewarded with a lucky break and TD putting them back in the game.
People will always support the underdog and want to see elves die, but most of your boo's were down to you complaining all through the game and being a bad sport.
Posted by adambomb on 2010-02-18 19:42:29
you mean luck actually is a large part of the game? who woulda thunk it?
I think when you fill the site with your posts, blogs, etc about how your elite skill allows you to win it tends to alienate others and make them want to cheer against you...especially when you tell people that skill wins over luck but then you complain when you don't win because of luck
also you have to realize that you have a big bullseye on you because you are the guy at the top so naturally people want to take you down...don't take it personally
just my two cents
I think when you fill the site with your posts, blogs, etc about how your elite skill allows you to win it tends to alienate others and make them want to cheer against you...especially when you tell people that skill wins over luck but then you complain when you don't win because of luck
also you have to realize that you have a big bullseye on you because you are the guy at the top so naturally people want to take you down...don't take it personally
just my two cents
Posted by pythrr on 2010-02-18 19:47:48
jesus, it is compulsory lame emo week this week or something?
Posted by PigStar-69 on 2010-02-18 19:49:05
lol !
Posted by PigStar-69 on 2010-02-18 19:56:09
i learn't what you are learning now, a long time ago ! some people just enter tournies to get games for their bashers and they just like to kkill stuff! is this wrong ?..... actually no imo. coaches can enjoy this game in many ways. some like to be tactically better and some llike to make a mess on the pitch. then there are elf ballers, team huggers etc. but really i dont see anything wrong in what ever tactiics coaches use.
my advice is just accept what ever other coaches wana do and just get on with your own game even if it means dieing in a tourney ! i dont even know how many teams i have lost in tournies now..... but it is a bloody lot ;-)
my only real problem with other coaches is very sloww play. and now i just do other stuff in their turns heh
my advice is just accept what ever other coaches wana do and just get on with your own game even if it means dieing in a tourney ! i dont even know how many teams i have lost in tournies now..... but it is a bloody lot ;-)
my only real problem with other coaches is very sloww play. and now i just do other stuff in their turns heh
Posted by shusaku on 2010-02-18 19:59:58
I was a very competitive go player. A game without much luck. I was good but not the best. I stopped playing go partly because I wouldnt be able to win major tournements. Thats when I turned to magic and in the end bloodbowl. Its also a highly strategic game. But I have a shot at winning a major even though I am far from the best coaches in terms of skill. I like that. And I can take a beating against poor coaches or poor teams.
But bloodbowl has other aspects than pure competitiveness and thats were you have to accept other people having fun in killing your team for instance. Its not your way but its theirs and its not or at least not only something against you.
I dont know enough about bloodbowl to judge it, but dark elves maybe the best team around, especially if your oppos play the way you want them to (dont kill your team when they are loosing). So you will have less fun in the bashers, I think.
I would really consider if a game like Go with a much more competitive atmosphere (especially in the higher ranking regions) is a better game for you. You will not be beaten by the dice and you will be very respected for competitiveness.
Nonetheless I personally like to have the best coaches on the site. So that I can have lots of fun dicing them ;) So please stay
But bloodbowl has other aspects than pure competitiveness and thats were you have to accept other people having fun in killing your team for instance. Its not your way but its theirs and its not or at least not only something against you.
I dont know enough about bloodbowl to judge it, but dark elves maybe the best team around, especially if your oppos play the way you want them to (dont kill your team when they are loosing). So you will have less fun in the bashers, I think.
I would really consider if a game like Go with a much more competitive atmosphere (especially in the higher ranking regions) is a better game for you. You will not be beaten by the dice and you will be very respected for competitiveness.
Nonetheless I personally like to have the best coaches on the site. So that I can have lots of fun dicing them ;) So please stay
Posted by CircularLogic on 2010-02-18 21:13:27
@spubbba:
Yes you are right. He didn`t abandon the ball, when he had a good shot at. I never said he did. To clarify:
I only reacted on what he chatted. And that was something like 'The game is yours' when I was leading 1-0 at halftime and recieving and then something like "lets see if I can take some of your players down with me". He actually never really abandoned the ball. Maybe because my dice fail gave him the equalizer and with the blitz he had a good shot in game. I don`t know. He T16 fouled with Lord Borak, but I deserved that I guess.
Rage just started, when he said 'lets see if I can take some of your players down'. From that point on I just overreacted and went on tilt.
Yes you are right. He didn`t abandon the ball, when he had a good shot at. I never said he did. To clarify:
I only reacted on what he chatted. And that was something like 'The game is yours' when I was leading 1-0 at halftime and recieving and then something like "lets see if I can take some of your players down with me". He actually never really abandoned the ball. Maybe because my dice fail gave him the equalizer and with the blitz he had a good shot in game. I don`t know. He T16 fouled with Lord Borak, but I deserved that I guess.
Rage just started, when he said 'lets see if I can take some of your players down'. From that point on I just overreacted and went on tilt.
Posted by Gromrilram on 2010-02-18 21:52:14
1) play vs paulhicks
2) loose
2) loose
Posted by Gran on 2010-02-18 22:50:47
There is some good advice here if you read the right comments, and of course also some emo-bashing - I would have been surprised if there hadn't, many of these blogs can be summed up as "See me, please!". I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and I think you are serious.
Let's get one thing clear first: you take yourself and the game to seriously, and that caused you to make an a** of yourself. It's a good thing you see that. I think you should listen to DukeTyrion. If you know that this is one of those days, tell your opponent and stay away from the chat and the emots and focus on the game.
However, I get the feeling that you value your position in the top so much that you see it as your "right" to win and to dominate every time, but Bloodbowl isn't that kind of game. Luck can have a great impact, and even I (CR round 145) could win against you on the right day. 1 game in 10 perhaps, or 15? What you might want to consider is why I play this game, because I get "shafted" 14 games out of 15. Because the game is fun, that's why!
I think you would benefit a lot if you could find a place where you could play for some other reason than winning, and were you could focus on the social aspect. My advice would be stunty, or maybe even better: academy. Check out Kryten's [A] team: http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=411203
If you are such a good coach, wouldn't it be good if you could help others? Plus, you have to be humble and pedagogic without trying to outsmart people.
Good luck, and have fun, dammit!
Let's get one thing clear first: you take yourself and the game to seriously, and that caused you to make an a** of yourself. It's a good thing you see that. I think you should listen to DukeTyrion. If you know that this is one of those days, tell your opponent and stay away from the chat and the emots and focus on the game.
However, I get the feeling that you value your position in the top so much that you see it as your "right" to win and to dominate every time, but Bloodbowl isn't that kind of game. Luck can have a great impact, and even I (CR round 145) could win against you on the right day. 1 game in 10 perhaps, or 15? What you might want to consider is why I play this game, because I get "shafted" 14 games out of 15. Because the game is fun, that's why!
I think you would benefit a lot if you could find a place where you could play for some other reason than winning, and were you could focus on the social aspect. My advice would be stunty, or maybe even better: academy. Check out Kryten's [A] team: http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=411203
If you are such a good coach, wouldn't it be good if you could help others? Plus, you have to be humble and pedagogic without trying to outsmart people.
Good luck, and have fun, dammit!
Posted by James_Probert on 2010-02-18 23:35:12
Possible time to try something different, that you can still get your competitive teeth into.
like hero164's FUMBBL Badges: http://fumbbl.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=15090&start=0
other than that, accept you probably aren't going to change, but also realise that when you're as good a coach as you are, you and your teams are scalps people like to be able to claim.
Also, it might be worth trying a league, for the different perspective, while quite often still having the same target (win ALL your games) ;)
like hero164's FUMBBL Badges: http://fumbbl.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=15090&start=0
other than that, accept you probably aren't going to change, but also realise that when you're as good a coach as you are, you and your teams are scalps people like to be able to claim.
Also, it might be worth trying a league, for the different perspective, while quite often still having the same target (win ALL your games) ;)
Posted by koadah on 2010-02-19 00:31:17
You sound like an ultra competitive guy playing a game that was just not designed for ultra competitive play.
The whole premise of the game is completely ridiculous.
Get real Circ. People buying a game called Blood Bowl are expecting to be able to kill stuff. And they are expecting it to be more than a little silly.
Maybe you should try your hand at chess or poker. Games where your skill and competitiveness might just make you some money. Then play this when you actually just want a bit of fun.
Was your opponent even being serious in what he said? Or was it just a joke that you missed? Is he now going to join the other silly buggers on your black list? ;)
You are very much appreciated on this site. Not just for your play but also for your contributions to tournaments, discussions, stats etc
I think that you are a top geezer.
But as they say in the movies...
"Why so serious?"
The whole premise of the game is completely ridiculous.
Get real Circ. People buying a game called Blood Bowl are expecting to be able to kill stuff. And they are expecting it to be more than a little silly.
Maybe you should try your hand at chess or poker. Games where your skill and competitiveness might just make you some money. Then play this when you actually just want a bit of fun.
Was your opponent even being serious in what he said? Or was it just a joke that you missed? Is he now going to join the other silly buggers on your black list? ;)
You are very much appreciated on this site. Not just for your play but also for your contributions to tournaments, discussions, stats etc
I think that you are a top geezer.
But as they say in the movies...
"Why so serious?"
Posted by turboraton on 2010-03-25 09:02:10
I usually don't comment on blogs but wanted to add that I find you are a very good coach and I like the way you play. Sadly this game sometimes is very heavy on having a good dice... perhaps you should embrace LRB5 o.o
Cheers!
Cheers!