Posted by Dhaktokh on 2012-12-06 12:03:02

haha, galning

Posted by Dhaktokh on 2012-12-06 12:03:43

du får en fyra av mig ;-D

Posted by Overhamsteren on 2012-12-06 12:11:30

I seldom hear complaints about the rng. :O

Posted by harvestmouse on 2012-12-06 12:20:45

You would do if you were part of the Swedish community that DT is part of. Any game lost is because of the broken RNG.

Posted by Muktar on 2012-12-06 12:26:40

There has been wayyyy too many streaks, at least for me, so unless I were to gather everyone's dice rolls, to look for randomness, could just be that I was given the painful end of the stick.

Posted by uuni on 2012-12-06 13:30:43

Christer has previously stated that using such machine would worsen the quality of the random numbers. The machine has bias - the dice roll less than random ways when they roll down. The crypto FFB uses is closer to random than that. Also the crypto FFB uses is specifically protected against setting up the random numbers by using multiple sources, among them all players and the physical random usb dongle on site.

More general information is available in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generation

Posted by DukeTyrion on 2012-12-06 14:38:31

http://search.dilbert.com/comic/Random%20Number%20Generator

Posted by harvestmouse on 2012-12-06 17:59:44

I can't believe this blog has gone up to 2.9......the fact anyone thinks they can spot a borked RNG is pretty laughable.

I think that I have had pretty bad dice in 9 of my last 10 games, but I wouldn't dream of making any borked RNG presumptions.

For one person to think the RNG is broken from their own matches is pretty amusing.

Posted by harvestmouse on 2012-12-06 21:22:47

Oh, and if you didn't rate this a 1, you shouldn't be playing here. Find a site you trust and a site owner you trust. if there isn't one, make a site of your own. Good bye.

Posted by DonTomaso on 2012-12-07 00:31:46

My main point being that I believe people trust dice more than they trust a computer program. Even if they get diced, they know that dice were thrown.

Most don't understand a computer program, but most understand at least one throw of the dice.

Posted by harvestmouse on 2012-12-07 01:05:17

Sure you are complaining, or you wouldn't have made this blog. It's a typical I got diced and lost whineafest. Also watch the language. acronyms and misspellings aren't acceptable.

You know; how have you any idea whether the RNG is broken from your own games? Even thinking that is a joke. It's not really a problem if you and your buddy SB think that.

The problem is that you affect new players....thinking 'well maybe there is a problem with the RNG or people can cheat the system here on fumbbl'. Just as you have put the idea in Muktar's head. He looks and thinks 'hey this Don Tomaso is an experienced guy, and if he thinks there's a problem, there must be!'

Unless you take a substantial sample and fine an anomaly there, keep your opinion to yourself.

Posted by DonTomaso on 2012-12-07 02:09:44

This was a suggestion, or a possible solution. Not a complaint.
There is a difference, but I don't think you want to see it that way.

I lose a lot of games, and most of them are not dice-related...

I know more about statistic probability than to judge it from one game. Or ten. Of course it feels weird when one gets that fifth double skull in one game... But then again, one don't remember the games when there were none.

It would be interesting to be able to see ones last 10 000 rolls or so, though. We could see the dice before. Any chance of that now? That don't prove much anyway, though.

I spoke to a mate before who complained about the RNG in WoW and in another game (can't remember it now, though)... the discussions there seem to be similar to ours.

Removed my first post, since you are actually one of the good guys here.
I was just surprised at the personal attacks and insulting tone. There was no need for that, unless there is some underlying reason.