Posted by DonTomaso on 2009-05-23 20:41:20
Interesting point of view.
There are suckers games, like Craps and Baccarat where you'll lose, no matter your system. In the long run the odds are against you.
Try sitting by the Black Jack taking notes, and see how fast you'll get thrown out.
Or analyzing the wheel of a roulette-table. You're out of there fast.
Why? Because there you can actually beat the relatively small house edge.
But, for every one winner there are a thousand losers...
Like sharks around wounded baby seals they are.... greedy moneygrabbing corporations. Beat them at their own game... not at the slotmachines, craps or baccarat.
Posted by Russo on 2009-05-23 21:13:00
Darn I thought this was a biography of Burt...you know the one that wrote "Do you know the way to San Jose"
:P
Posted by DonTomaso on 2009-05-23 21:50:18
Haha! Russo....
The good old Burt. Him, and Barry Manilow, never goes out of fashion.. :)
Posted by Chrome_ghoul on 2009-05-23 22:13:55
For a split second I thought this was Burt's obituary! Gave me quite a fright. The good read more than made up for it though.
Posted by Brother-Fu on 2009-05-23 23:47:36
Burt is maybe, besides McCarthny/Lennon, the greatest songwriter of all times!
Posted by Russo on 2009-05-24 00:16:56
Eat my shorts Brother-Fu :D
There are plenty of great song writers that have written better songs than the Beatles. I think they are OK but nothing special.
Posted by SillySod on 2009-05-24 05:05:44
Its possible that one or two of them are looking for repetitions caused by inherrently non-random card shuffling techniques. I kind of doubt it though :)
Posted by EdgeDante on 2009-05-24 05:38:14
Don-
Card counting is obviously forbidden in blackjack, but as far as roulette goes, you can sit there and write all the results if you like - but in most modernized casinos, there's actually a scoreboard that shows the past 20 or so rolls anyway. I also know this Indian guy that uses a baccarat scorecard to keep score himself.
That doesn't help either. He loses all the time.
Posted by Gromrilram on 2009-05-24 06:08:02
roulette has the same amount of influence of the player as baccarat.
none.
but, you made me curious, i didnt get where the casino wins at baccarat. in roulette, its easy, the "0" makes the difference from "50-50" to "close to 50-50".
is there a statistical advatage of the casino, or is the baccarat system only based on human mind:
you win => you play on until you came back to zero or, more likely, you even lost something
you loose => well, you lost.
Posted by EdgeDante on 2009-05-24 06:15:24
In baccarat, the two bets are called "player" and "banker". There's also a "tie" bet that isn't anywhere near fair. It's an awful bet.
But, of the two legitimate bets:
The "player" is at a disadvantage - it has a slightly greater chance to lose than win.
The "banker" is at a slight advantage, but a 5% commission of your bet is taken every time you win on the banker bet.
Thus, you're slightly favored to lose or you're slightly favored to win, but you'll win less than you bet.
Posted by CircularLogic on 2009-05-24 10:56:30
So I take it, that after each round of baccarat, cards are reshuffled? Else score keeping could serve the same purpuse than card counting in blackjack
Posted by EdgeDante on 2009-05-24 17:07:41
Circ, because the player makes no decisions in deciding the winner, and no type of card benefits either bet more than the other, card counting serves no conceivable purpose in baccarat.