Posted by Araznaroth on 2010-03-01 18:35:39
How do the Fighting Hellfishes fit into this picture? :D
Posted by f_alk on 2010-03-01 19:36:23
baptizing = water = fish,
enemy of bishops = hell
Not?
Posted by pac on 2010-03-01 19:59:19
Fighting?
Jan Mattys was always fighting against the bishops. But that never got a man anywhere. Except beaten and bruised, pike-scarred and crawling towards a bar pleading through bloody lips for bourbon.
No one ever got far out of fighting the bishops. Not that that put Jan Mattys off. That man would have punched a bishop wearing a spiked cod-piece in the crotch without a second thought.
Hell? Fishes? Those are other stories. When you're talking about a man like Jan Mattys, in times like those, in places like Amsterdam (and Munster), you don't run out of stories.
Posted by Catalyst32 on 2010-03-03 07:33:09
Is this a REAL person you are telling the legend of or a character. Sounds like it might make a good movie.
Posted by pac on 2010-03-03 13:19:54
Catalyst, when you ask whether Jan Mattys was real it makes me realise that the bishops won in more ways than maybe even they ever knew. They put the man's head on a pike and now people aren't even sure if he existed.
If Jan Mattys had known that would happen ... Well, it wouldn't have surprised him at all. It was the sort of thing he would have expected. In those days, in Amsterdam (and Munster), you couldn't afford to worry about whether you'd be remembered. They weren't those kinds of times. People had enough to worry about wondering where the next puff pastry was coming from - not to mention staying out of the eye-line of the bishops. All but Jan Mattys, of course. No staying out of sight for him. He'd always march straight up to any bishop he saw and give him a piece of his mind. It was the sort of honesty you had to admire (even if no one could hope to tell what he was ranting about), but it certainly cost him in the end.
Posted by Catalyst32 on 2010-03-04 06:45:06
So he didn't exist. Now that we are clear it is still good material. Very entertaining. Cult inspiring.
Posted by JanMattys on 2010-03-04 18:35:01
I do exist, btw :)
Posted by Catalyst32 on 2010-03-05 01:46:28
OMG!!! It's TRUE!!! lol
Posted by funnyfingers on 2010-03-05 23:16:13
A real book does exist on Jan Mattys, a baker, and involves bishops.
Posted by Catalyst32 on 2010-03-06 00:23:20
A fiction or a non-fiction book.