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A Libertarian Rant on Intellectual Property and Innovation
Intellectual Property (IP) laws vary from place to place. Regardless of where they are practiced and to what extent, IP laws are grants of positive rights over ideas, and restrict the use of those ideas by others. According to most proponents of IP law, they do this in order to encourage innovation. For example, the United Nations organization for protection of intellectual property, WIPO, describes their task as "... to promote innovation and creativity for the economic, social and cultural development of all countries, through a balanced and effective international intellectual property system."

But does IP law encourage innovation? This is a claim which is often assumed a priori, but should be challenged. Little or no empirical data on the effect of IP on innovation exists, and what little data there is can be hard to draw conclusions from because of the absence of any counterexample, and because the concepts of "invention" (creating new ideas) and "innovation" (putting new ideas to use) are frequently and mistakenly treated as synonyms.

IP laws on their own do not create anything, but by definition they do prevent new ideas from being used where they are most needed. By failing to differentiate between innovation and invention, most arguments that defend IP law seem to conclude that the value of bread is in the loaf, not on the dinner table. (Compare David Ricardo's Labor Theory of Value.) They encourage radical improvement over incremental improvement, but only by essentially outlawing the latter. And they confuse or invalidate real property rights over such physical property as is sometimes subjected to IP statute. (When you buy a music CD for example, what exactly do you own?)

For the fantasy football gaming community, the possibility of IP laws stifling innovation and conflicting with real property rights have hit very close to home. The operators of this site have elected to comply with international laws and agreements to avoid potential legal action, using their hardware to support only what content is deemed acceptable by certain outside parties, rather than what content would best provide for the improvement of the game and community. Of course, I respect that decision. And I love this site. But I would encourage those who have seen the ill effects of IP laws in person to reconsider their support for these laws in general. IP laws should be challenged to defend their very existence against this simple but heterodox position: ideas- like minds, like men, cannot be owned.
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Posted by koadah on 2013-08-23 00:24:14
I suppose they could shut us down but they haven't.

We're not allowed to use GW images but that is not exactly innovation.
We could choose to use whatever rules we like but choose not to.
Posted by harvestmouse on 2013-08-23 00:32:04
If you've been put in Christer's shoes, and made the decision to fight the action, even if it means going to court over a hobby, I guess you have a right to make comment about it.

However, as far as I know not one site decided to fight GW's cease and desist letters, so that's highly doubtful. Even then, this is his house, and he sets the rules, and nobody has the right to question his actions on the matter.
Posted by Jeffro on 2013-08-23 00:44:54
+1 HM... challenge them yourself in a place where you are responsible for your actions. But while in Rome... do as the Romans do and render to Caesar what is Caesar's ;)
Posted by Wreckage on 2013-08-23 00:48:37
Despite the poor ratings a very good post.
To me it is often funny to see how irresponsible IP is treated by it's owners as money cows. Essentially taking advantage of the customers gap in knowledge about the product.

Although it is important that IP laws exist, their current design doesn't fit in a world where informations can be quantified without any expenses infinitely.

Just as there shouldn't be put a price tag on bread or any other product if its replication wouldn't cost anything.
Of course you still have to pay someone for the design but lets be reasonable here. No matter how pretty the breads design is, it's never gonna be worth 100 million dollar.
Posted by gjopie on 2013-08-23 00:51:21
If you're not going to respect intellectual property, why bother respecting any kind of "property" at all? If you can make better use of your neighbour's food than they can, why not take it, right?
Posted by Wreckage on 2013-08-23 01:00:06
Gjope, there is a difference in "copying" the fence and "taking" the fence.
You understand why?
Posted by Wreckage on 2013-08-23 01:18:18
Or let me put it like this:

Two neighbours live in a street. One day neighbours A has a brilliant idea about how to build a beautiful fence. He goes to work and at dawn he is finished, happy about his work he watches the sun go down behind the fence.

Storeh 1:
Neighbour B sees the fence and has also a brilliant idea. He has dogs in his garden, neighbour A hasn't got any dogs. Neighbour B decides that the fence is more usefull to him, rips it out of the ground, leaves neighbor A's garden in a mess and plants the fence in his own garden. Shocked by the damages neigbour A now sues neigbour B for return of the fence and 500$ in damages.

Storeh 2:
Neighbour B sees the fence and has also a brilliant idea. He has dogs in his garden, neighbour A hasn't got any dogs. Neighbour B decides that this awsomely designed fence would be equally usefull to him.
He proceeds to build the very same fence step by step even to the smallest detail. Exhausted from his work he sits down.
At the next morning neighbour A leaves his house and there the shock! The hard work that has gone in the individual fence for nothing! His neighbour just copied it! Broken hearted the poor man goes to court and sues his neighbour for 5000$ (Going down from 50000 because he was sure he could sell the fences design on the international market).
Posted by B_SIDE on 2013-08-23 02:01:11
Some people might have missed the part of my blog that states in no uncertain terms that I respect Christer's decisions on the matter, and that I love this site.

Wreckage seems to have a pretty good idea of where I'm coming from. IP is what's sometimes called "rent-seeking" behavior. There's a decent Wikipedia article on the subject.

Anyway it's a one page rant, not a treatise on state ethics. I can't claim to advance anything new here, nor to address every potential argument against my position. But it's the dialogue that's important. IP is worth thinking about, instead of just accepting that big brother knows best.
Posted by koadah on 2013-08-23 02:39:04
We're still playing blood bowl for free.

Do you want Jervis to come around and give you a back rub too?

What should we be hosting that would "best provide for the improvement of the game and community"?
Posted by Sutherlands on 2013-08-29 23:35:04
I know this is a week old, but here's a better set of stories:

Storeh 1:
Company A spends $50M developing a cure for the current strain of the flu. They sell the cure to everyone who has the flu, making $110M. They keep $50M as profits, $10M went to making the flu, and they reinvest $50M into making a cure for the flu next season (or a cure for diabetes, or cancer). Everybody is happy because they didn't get the flu.

Storeh 2:
Company A spends $50M developing a cure for the current strain of the flu. They put the cure on the market. Company B takes their product, copies it, and sells it for a fraction of the cost. Consumers are happy because they got their product for cheap. Company A goes out of business. Next season, nobody is willing to invest in R&D because they can't get money out of the invention. Everybody dies from the flu.