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2010-02-12 00:40:09
23 votes, rating 4.7
23 votes, rating 4.7
Now it's official!
Today, I received the Losing Streak award. Moreover, 25% of my lost matches fall into my last 16 games which, in turn, amount to 17% of my experience on Fumbbl. To spare the math or a look at my profile to you: I played 89 matches and got defeated in 44 of them which, by itself, is not a tragedy at all. But seeing that in my recent games I didn't really manage to carry the ball into my opponents TD zone that often, I wonder about the reason for receiving that dubitable award.
There were some games, where I got beaten up in the most unpleasant of ways, e.g. this one, this here, or that. Don't get me wrong, most of my games so far, including the above mentioned, were great fun. Nevertheless, to sit on the receiving end of the cas delivery all the time threatens to become a tiny bit frustrating.
And of course, I screwed up seriously sometimes. But I don't feel like making that many obvious mistakes and, thus, guess that my bad luck could in fact be bad tactical and strategical behaviour. I do know, e.g., that I should foul more often. But I cannot get to implement that routine.
I thought about going back to
There were some games, where I got beaten up in the most unpleasant of ways, e.g. this one, this here, or that. Don't get me wrong, most of my games so far, including the above mentioned, were great fun. Nevertheless, to sit on the receiving end of the cas delivery all the time threatens to become a tiny bit frustrating.
And of course, I screwed up seriously sometimes. But I don't feel like making that many obvious mistakes and, thus, guess that my bad luck could in fact be bad tactical and strategical behaviour. I do know, e.g., that I should foul more often. But I cannot get to implement that routine.
I thought about going back to
. But, still, I like [R] better for reasons I cannot fully explain. Maybe it's about the hope that a team might grow and compete at TR 150+. But, to be competetive myself in those regions I must learn, at least to detect my errors by hindsight.
So, if you feel inclined to watch a replay of one of my exciting matches and give a short hint on things to improve, you're most wellcome. Likewise, if we meet on the pitch, do not hesitate to share your wisdom with me. If you're out to get some easy spp, let me be your cherry, but, after eating me up, please contribute to the growth of my cherry stone by watering me with your advice.
Thanks.
So, if you feel inclined to watch a replay of one of my exciting matches and give a short hint on things to improve, you're most wellcome. Likewise, if we meet on the pitch, do not hesitate to share your wisdom with me. If you're out to get some easy spp, let me be your cherry, but, after eating me up, please contribute to the growth of my cherry stone by watering me with your advice.
Thanks.
Comments
Posted by Gromrilram on 2010-02-12 00:53:08
so... i dont have the time to look at the replays will perhaps do in a couple of days (more likely: i will forget about it).
from my experince though it is a normal thing. when you start of you often play vs coaches that are as good as you at that stage. you lean slowly, thus win a bit more than loosing. that brings you in the range of playing better coaches, what makes you loose. a change from academy to anked emphasized that incredibly, as well as higher team ratings usually do.
you seem to have gotten worse, but in fact, right now, you are learning faster than before.
so, in my opinion, academy is best for learning the client, not the game. stick to ranked, watch really good coaches matches and think what you would do in their situation and compare.
gromrilram
from my experince though it is a normal thing. when you start of you often play vs coaches that are as good as you at that stage. you lean slowly, thus win a bit more than loosing. that brings you in the range of playing better coaches, what makes you loose. a change from academy to anked emphasized that incredibly, as well as higher team ratings usually do.
you seem to have gotten worse, but in fact, right now, you are learning faster than before.
so, in my opinion, academy is best for learning the client, not the game. stick to ranked, watch really good coaches matches and think what you would do in their situation and compare.
gromrilram
Posted by MasterKilla on 2010-02-12 09:21:48
Is there by chance anyone who is a loosing streak addict :)
lost more than 1000 games in a row ? ? ?
That would be fame
lost more than 1000 games in a row ? ? ?
That would be fame
Posted by Tamzarian on 2010-02-12 10:04:07
Thanks, Gromrilram, I found comfort in your words. I already suspected an increase of coaching abilities on my opponents side to be responsible for my situation. And it really does feel like getting worse.
Posted by Gran on 2010-02-12 10:18:36
Most likely you are right, you are playing against a much harder opposition and that will expose a lot a mistakes and bad habits. When you play (taking myself as an example) you will adapt to your opposition and try to find good strategies that work against them. Well, in [A] many of the coaches you face have little experience and will not notice, or be able to exploit, some of the mistakes that you make that you would never get away with in [R].
On fouling by the way: you often hear that you need to foul to be a good coach. As a general statement, that is false. There are many highly skilled coaches on this site who rarely foul, just as there are highly skilled coaches who will stomp your head 4-5 times per game. What wins games is player placement, doing things in the right order and knowing the risks.
Also, you have chosen Chaos as one of your first teams for [R], and while chaos looks the part with all that strength and the possibility for mayhem they are a very difficult team to win with when they start due to lack of skills.
Anyway, as you will see by my record I'm not the most skilled coach out there, but don't hesitate to ask me for a game. Who knows, I might be the cherry? ;-)
On fouling by the way: you often hear that you need to foul to be a good coach. As a general statement, that is false. There are many highly skilled coaches on this site who rarely foul, just as there are highly skilled coaches who will stomp your head 4-5 times per game. What wins games is player placement, doing things in the right order and knowing the risks.
Also, you have chosen Chaos as one of your first teams for [R], and while chaos looks the part with all that strength and the possibility for mayhem they are a very difficult team to win with when they start due to lack of skills.
Anyway, as you will see by my record I'm not the most skilled coach out there, but don't hesitate to ask me for a game. Who knows, I might be the cherry? ;-)
Posted by Tamzarian on 2010-02-12 11:14:18
Thanks, Gran. You're right, of course: it's not primarily about my hesitation to put the boot in on a regular basis. But I remember that in those few games where I didn't care about the ref too much I was more successful with my strategy. Concerning the positioning, I have a lot to learn as well.
Surprisingly, my High Elfs were most successful agains Chaos teams. That might be due to those teams not being heavily loaded with mutations or DPs, but it motivated me to choose Chaos for my more bashy [R]-team. I managed to win against them, so I thought I might be able to avoid those mistakes I profited from in my games against them. Turned out, that was a blatant non sequitur.
Surprisingly, my High Elfs were most successful agains Chaos teams. That might be due to those teams not being heavily loaded with mutations or DPs, but it motivated me to choose Chaos for my more bashy [R]-team. I managed to win against them, so I thought I might be able to avoid those mistakes I profited from in my games against them. Turned out, that was a blatant non sequitur.
Posted by Shimin on 2010-02-12 14:49:32
When booting (unless you ask Paulhicks (go to his profile for his words on booting)), you should do it for important reason only - This could be removing a keyplayer or gaining a general advantage. Often you wont get to foul that many times, and even with the ref, you cant be certain of fouling (or at least a reasonable foul) every turn. Consider always if the boot you place will be better than the boot your opponent place the next round. Booting also depend on the team you play. If you play Khemri, most coaches wouldnt live without being able to boot, opposite that you have the puny elves, who most likely will place less boots (but most will hold a dirty player or 2 just in case they get a "free" boot on an important player. Or just to keep opponent from booting too often).
Always look out for pushes/chainpushes that lead your player to the sideline. Although he might have bigger chance of not getting hurt, he is certainly out until halftime or next TD and if he DOES get hurt, there is no apothecary.
If playing against Khemri: Avoid mummies, take out skeletons and the mummies on their own are helpless. They rely on high strength, but without the aid of the skeletons they arent worth much. This tactic works best against khemri, but can be utilised against other teams as well. Also just put a lino next to the mummy and he will be caught up in that match while you position yourself better (works best against low ag teams, and should only be used if it helps to gain the upper hand on the rest of the field).
Ofcourse there are a thousand other things to think about and fieldposition is the most important, but above pointers are some more specific fieldposition stuff to think about.
Well, thats just my 2 cents.
PS: Always to it in the order least to most risky unless you absolutly need the risky stuff to work BEFORE you are able to do the not so risky stuff. And dont forget to stand up players.
Always look out for pushes/chainpushes that lead your player to the sideline. Although he might have bigger chance of not getting hurt, he is certainly out until halftime or next TD and if he DOES get hurt, there is no apothecary.
If playing against Khemri: Avoid mummies, take out skeletons and the mummies on their own are helpless. They rely on high strength, but without the aid of the skeletons they arent worth much. This tactic works best against khemri, but can be utilised against other teams as well. Also just put a lino next to the mummy and he will be caught up in that match while you position yourself better (works best against low ag teams, and should only be used if it helps to gain the upper hand on the rest of the field).
Ofcourse there are a thousand other things to think about and fieldposition is the most important, but above pointers are some more specific fieldposition stuff to think about.
Well, thats just my 2 cents.
PS: Always to it in the order least to most risky unless you absolutly need the risky stuff to work BEFORE you are able to do the not so risky stuff. And dont forget to stand up players.
Posted by Jarvis555 on 2010-02-12 15:31:42
It looks like two of the games you were playing against much better than your own which would make life more difficult anyway.
As said before probably the best way to improve is by playing against better coaches.
P.s. Play Blackbox rather than ranked!!
As said before probably the best way to improve is by playing against better coaches.
P.s. Play Blackbox rather than ranked!!
Posted by MadTias on 2010-02-12 21:31:29
The linked games I wouldn't worry about losing, you were down a lot in luck or TS. And like previous commentors have noticed, R is a tougher environment than A. Without watching replays, I'd say just keep the spirit up and you'll improve your record eventually. If you don't care for fouling, play races that are suited to avoiding fouling wars (low AV, expensive players). Still things to learn after a thousand games...
Posted by Hero164 on 2010-02-16 14:29:09
Its important to get those losing streak badges early to complete the set before you improve as a coach.