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2009-06-01 09:43:16
25 votes, rating 3.4
25 votes, rating 3.4
Will the streak end? And if so when?
I wrote a blog recently about crossing the 200 games played threshold. Since then I have 2 wins in 13 games and am winless in my last 9 games. I've gone from 16 games above .500 to 6 games above, my CR has gone from 156 to below 150 for the first time in my brief playing career.
Have you veteran players experienced this type of frustrating streak? When can I expect my luck to turn? This isn't really feeling like fun anymore...I mean I'm not the best coach by any stretch but I'm certainly not horrible and I don't think I've been playing poorly...and I have demonstrated I can win...but not without the help of the dice it seems.
Help me break the streak!
As a side note: I'll build a team banner/logo for the first person to accurately guess how many more games my winless streak will continue for.
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Have you veteran players experienced this type of frustrating streak? When can I expect my luck to turn? This isn't really feeling like fun anymore...I mean I'm not the best coach by any stretch but I'm certainly not horrible and I don't think I've been playing poorly...and I have demonstrated I can win...but not without the help of the dice it seems.
Help me break the streak!
As a side note: I'll build a team banner/logo for the first person to accurately guess how many more games my winless streak will continue for.
edit Circular Logic won the banner...view it here
Comments
Posted by CircularLogic on 2009-06-01 09:59:32
Yes... everyone has those streaks, where keyrolls fail or you just get totally trashed each game.Some rage-quit and delete all their teams, just to come back and moan that they shouldn`t have retired, some just play a little less games and some just tough it out.
The bad thing about those streaks is that you have them in your mind and they usually affect your coaching in a negative way. So it`s kind of self-reinforcing. There are two ways to deal with it:
1) Cherrypick the easiest noob you can find and beat him.
2) Try to pick tough games against hard coaches for 3-4, so that you can easily justify the loss through your coaching abilities and get away from the 'jinxed' mindset.
Depending in the strategy chosen, I`m going with 2 and 6 more games.
The bad thing about those streaks is that you have them in your mind and they usually affect your coaching in a negative way. So it`s kind of self-reinforcing. There are two ways to deal with it:
1) Cherrypick the easiest noob you can find and beat him.
2) Try to pick tough games against hard coaches for 3-4, so that you can easily justify the loss through your coaching abilities and get away from the 'jinxed' mindset.
Depending in the strategy chosen, I`m going with 2 and 6 more games.
Posted by CircularLogic on 2009-06-01 10:01:37
PS:
The better you get at the game, the more frustration is in those streaks, as you lose matches, that you know you would have normally won while cleaning the house, walking the dog and making love to your girl.
The better you get at the game, the more frustration is in those streaks, as you lose matches, that you know you would have normally won while cleaning the house, walking the dog and making love to your girl.
Posted by Meetgrinder on 2009-06-01 10:27:32
I did exactly the same, started well, got into the 160s (or maybe higher before there was a server reset, can't remember) then started freefalling, ended up at 140 though am sure I was at 138 at some point, just can't find the coach development page :S Was at that stage for ages, never had problems finding a game mind :)
Orcs. Boring, predictable and so on, but Orcs will drag your coach rating kicking and screaming back up. Did for me. I stopped using elves, undead, halflings, dwarves (bashy they may be but I find them tough to win with) heck, all those other teams and stuck with orcs for ages simply to claw my way back. Also tried to stick to my 'no handicap for either team' stipulation and many of the games were an out and out grind. Wasn't pretty, or much fun as not everyone will play orcs even with bashy teams or other orcs, but stick with it and you should be ok. When it's back up, you can try other teams (as I am now) to recapture some fun of playing.
You can also play vs Ogres. A lot. You will probably* win as they are a daft kind of team, but the risk is massive that your team won't survive or be down so many for the next game you'll lose that one as you attempt recovery. I'm sure Ogres are for those coaches who prefer to see blood smears on the field than bother with troublesome things like balls and scoring. Like I say, the risk is huge with 2 dice blocks and mighty blow raining down on you. You have been warned! Just hope that Av9 resists as well as it shouldn't (it doesn't generally :S)
As for your winless streak, I predict it will last until your next game when you'll draw or win :)
Even if I lose a game but have chatted throughout and had a laugh, it's worth it for me. Those silent coaches who don't answer back and take ages to play are the ones I dislike the most >:-(
At the end of the day, CR is more about choosing a suitable team to play against rather than obvious mismatch, and the rest is not making too many mistakes in game/hoping for decent dice. Or at least that's my (probably wrong) theory.
Good luck! :D
*I say 'probably' win but there are some superb coaches on here who, don't ask me how, make teams like Ogres, Goblins, Vampires and Norse work. On paper some of those teams should be ok, or good even. In practise I find they're all pretty awful to coach and add to your losing streak. You'd have to be a far better coach than I to succeed when coaching them!
Orcs. Boring, predictable and so on, but Orcs will drag your coach rating kicking and screaming back up. Did for me. I stopped using elves, undead, halflings, dwarves (bashy they may be but I find them tough to win with) heck, all those other teams and stuck with orcs for ages simply to claw my way back. Also tried to stick to my 'no handicap for either team' stipulation and many of the games were an out and out grind. Wasn't pretty, or much fun as not everyone will play orcs even with bashy teams or other orcs, but stick with it and you should be ok. When it's back up, you can try other teams (as I am now) to recapture some fun of playing.
You can also play vs Ogres. A lot. You will probably* win as they are a daft kind of team, but the risk is massive that your team won't survive or be down so many for the next game you'll lose that one as you attempt recovery. I'm sure Ogres are for those coaches who prefer to see blood smears on the field than bother with troublesome things like balls and scoring. Like I say, the risk is huge with 2 dice blocks and mighty blow raining down on you. You have been warned! Just hope that Av9 resists as well as it shouldn't (it doesn't generally :S)
As for your winless streak, I predict it will last until your next game when you'll draw or win :)
Even if I lose a game but have chatted throughout and had a laugh, it's worth it for me. Those silent coaches who don't answer back and take ages to play are the ones I dislike the most >:-(
At the end of the day, CR is more about choosing a suitable team to play against rather than obvious mismatch, and the rest is not making too many mistakes in game/hoping for decent dice. Or at least that's my (probably wrong) theory.
Good luck! :D
*I say 'probably' win but there are some superb coaches on here who, don't ask me how, make teams like Ogres, Goblins, Vampires and Norse work. On paper some of those teams should be ok, or good even. In practise I find they're all pretty awful to coach and add to your losing streak. You'd have to be a far better coach than I to succeed when coaching them!
Posted by Meetgrinder on 2009-06-01 10:33:52
PS I see you do use Orcs a fair bit. Playing vs Khemri is another good way to have short turns and spend most of the game watching your opponent shuffle up the field whilst you pick players up and click turn over. Never got my head around playing them - it was usually too busy being stuffed into the floor by a mummy...
Posted by Bill_Vestergaard on 2009-06-01 11:13:00
I think you will win the next game :D
That is the easy guess. :D
Well and I had the same thing a couple of week ago. I normally think of myself as playing quite well and winning a lot of my games. One day I lost 9 of 11 games, one draw and one win. The thing is, it will change at some point, no one knows when. Some quite for good, some take a short break, some go down in the amount of games they play, and yet other play on and hope it will end soon, just as CircularLogic wrote.
That is the easy guess. :D
Well and I had the same thing a couple of week ago. I normally think of myself as playing quite well and winning a lot of my games. One day I lost 9 of 11 games, one draw and one win. The thing is, it will change at some point, no one knows when. Some quite for good, some take a short break, some go down in the amount of games they play, and yet other play on and hope it will end soon, just as CircularLogic wrote.
Posted by DonTomaso on 2009-06-01 11:52:58
You'll win more once you stop blaming it on luck, or lack there of.
Posted by Shimin on 2009-06-01 13:43:36
http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=coach&op=development&coach=89687
gl. Look at the coach you're playing, that might help you.
gl. Look at the coach you're playing, that might help you.
Posted by maysrill on 2009-06-01 13:49:24
I tend to go in streaks. I've lost 6 or 7 in a row (not just not won, but flat out lost), and I've had 10+ game winning streaks. A lot of it has to do with the teams you're using and the matchups you're playing.
Hard to believe, but my CR goes up when I play good teams, and down when I play the silly ones. My 11/8/30 ogre team has done more damage to my CR than any team I've had, by far. Ownership of a couple good orc/dwarf/woodie teams is a staple of a good CR for many coaches.
Best advice. Just stick to playing "fair" games even if it means waiting a bit. Getting over the "I know I'm getting picked, but I just want to play" issue will ease a lot of frustration.
Community Service Advice: make an academy team and teach new players the basics of the game and the quirks of the client. You'll be helping the noobs out, and probably win in the process (or you will get pwned by noobs and be back in the blogs crying even harder!)
Hard to believe, but my CR goes up when I play good teams, and down when I play the silly ones. My 11/8/30 ogre team has done more damage to my CR than any team I've had, by far. Ownership of a couple good orc/dwarf/woodie teams is a staple of a good CR for many coaches.
Best advice. Just stick to playing "fair" games even if it means waiting a bit. Getting over the "I know I'm getting picked, but I just want to play" issue will ease a lot of frustration.
Community Service Advice: make an academy team and teach new players the basics of the game and the quirks of the client. You'll be helping the noobs out, and probably win in the process (or you will get pwned by noobs and be back in the blogs crying even harder!)
Posted by pythrr on 2009-06-01 14:15:39
circ! doing wot to yr dog! sick!
Posted by def909 on 2009-06-01 16:49:56
You´ll win the next one.
Posted by adambomb on 2009-06-02 21:41:34
well thanks for the votes of confidence but I didn't win the next game either.....and so the streak continues...
Posted by adambomb on 2009-06-03 23:18:00
woohoo the 10 game winless streak is over! http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=match&id=2700344
we even forced a concession!
we'll see how long it lasts now. congrats to Circular Logic who guessed 2 games....so he wins the banner/logo for one of his teams.
we even forced a concession!
we'll see how long it lasts now. congrats to Circular Logic who guessed 2 games....so he wins the banner/logo for one of his teams.