Posted by latulike on 2013-05-02 13:26:07

After playing 61 games with dark elves I thino you should already know the answer.

Posted by C3I2 on 2013-05-02 13:29:15

That should be a couple of hundreds of games with DEs, and I think meta picks always can be argued.

Posted by Arktoris on 2013-05-02 13:43:04

I'd go with jump up

Posted by Chainsaw on 2013-05-02 13:55:57

Fend for survival? You need to play a team that's a threat first. (Not impressed with your average opponent choice TBH.)

Given your average opponent, diving tackle works well.

Posted by C3I2 on 2013-05-02 14:09:30

I still wont play your Orcs, or any other team with mb/po (+tackle) in ranked but I doubt I can avoid mb/po if I put Coriolanus in GLT next week Chainsaw, otherwise DT would probably be fine.

As for Jump Up, I have played http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=652495 (Arktoris) Jump up (and AV+) is very efficient for blocking back for advantage (esp with SS also). I will probably do that on my wrestle guys instead of tackle, as they do line duty.

Posted by Chainsaw on 2013-05-02 15:09:38

I'm not talking about me in particular.

Look at your matches history. Is that a list of match ups that makes you feel like you've challenged yourself at all? Most games you're taking lowish CR coaches with far weaker teams, almost exclusively with no hitting power at all.

And before you try to come back at me for having a few games that look unfair; I usually greenlit the entire finder and they happened to accept.

Posted by the_Sage on 2013-05-02 15:14:33

diving tackle. You pick on elves, and if they can't beat the shit out of him, they try to get away from him.

Posted by C3I2 on 2013-05-02 15:27:15

I have not checked who you play with Chainsaw, I have chosen not to play you when you greenlit me, due to mb/po; I wont play ANY team on Ranked with that; if I would feel the urge to punish my self I can always activate my BB darkelf teams instead.

I would also state that Im hardly alone at that, why dont you make a team have one MB player, then put PO on another and see how many fewer offers you get on ranked? Lot of coaches wont look at the team then even (and see you dont have a mb/po but mb and another player with po).

Generally speaking on TV, I would say that playing up when you´re 2300-2500 is kind of hard, but that is just my experience. There is probably a bunch of superbashy teams at higher TV, that have lots of money (and therefore can stay high) a lot of those teams grandfathered in under old rules, but even if for some reason I would see one of those teams on the finder I doubt I or any other would play them, hence they don't get to the finder for consideration in the first place.

Posted by Chainsaw on 2013-05-02 17:20:44

That you see playing a single mb/po as "punishment" speaks volumes.

Posted by C3I2 on 2013-05-02 18:25:59

Of course, what fun is there in playing somebody that only tries to kill the opposing teams players? I have even won games where the opponent fouled me the last turn instead of scoring a TD, DESPITE me telling him not to do it as it could be a turnover in the chatt.

I for one have not "analyzed" your games, but I will make a prediction, while your Chainsaw Orc team probably have played the occational mb/po team on ranked, I bet you have not played a Claw/MB/PO chaos team (outside of tournaments) on ranked for say, 40-50 games, despite getting lots of offers to play. Correct or not?

Posted by Chainsaw on 2013-05-02 22:22:05

Incorrect. I played Spirit Breaker 10 games ago with that team.

http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=726521

Posted by C3I2 on 2013-05-02 22:38:39

He had claw+mb and he had mb+po (+tackle), but no claw+mb+po that game.