Posted by Jeffro on 2011-07-15 22:48:39

Seems a silly sentiment to be endorsed by someone whose nic is EvolveToAnarchism.

B)

Posted by EvolveToAnarchism on 2011-07-16 00:30:56

Only if you have been sadly misinformed as to what anarchism really means. Surprisingly, wikipedia has a decent enough article on anarchism to dismiss most of the common misconceptions, but the ABCs of Anarchism is a much better read.

Posted by Gromrilram on 2011-07-16 00:42:18

"Seems a silly sentiment to be endorsed by someone whose nic is EvolveToAnarchism."

i really tried, but i dont get it:
why does that seem a silly sentiment?

Posted by Jeffro on 2011-07-16 03:18:17

It's not a silly sentiment... I just think that it's silly that someone who expounds anarchy is against folks derailing threads for the sake of fun derailment ;)


I just call 'em like I see 'em... nothing personal against either of you! ;D

Posted by EvolveToAnarchism on 2011-07-16 05:21:44

It's rather authoritarian, the antithesis of anarchism, to deliberate derail someone else's conversation because you are bored with it.

Posted by Jeffro on 2011-07-16 05:28:09

But it's not authoritarian at ALL to continue to spout about the definition of anarchism to those you feel don't understand it's complexity...

/me yawns...

How about them Cubs!?

Posted by EvolveToAnarchism on 2011-07-16 06:56:42

Sorry, for thinking you might want to actually know something about the things you wish to make proclaimations about... my bad.

Posted by Timlagor on 2011-07-16 08:44:23

these cubs? http://videos2view.net/animalpictures/BEARCUBS.jpg

Posted by pythrr on 2011-07-16 10:14:42

and this coming for YOU, evo? The arch spammer and troll? LOL

Posted by Gromrilram on 2011-07-16 14:19:51

god that would be awesome... the ultimate troll-off!

we take a thread about whatever topic. than we give evo and pythrr each another topic, and whoever manages to pull the thread to his side wins...



i still lurv you both

Posted by pythrr on 2011-07-16 14:37:33

i don;t want to touch evo's....errr....."thread".....

i am a clean-living boy.

Posted by Gromrilram on 2011-07-16 15:25:31

mah picturs say otherwise...

Posted by spiro on 2011-07-16 18:26:19

LOL i agree with this claim.

I have been banned 4 month ago from forum because they said that i am a troll LOL, because i didn't agree with stupidity and moronic deductions about wrestler and chainsaw rules ;D.

I think if there are more trolls then they should be all banned LOL.
Possible that forum would be dying by this.

For me forum waste my time.

Posted by spiro on 2011-07-16 18:36:24

btw, a troll it's a relative determine, depend who is telling that LOL

Posted by pythrr on 2011-07-16 19:07:39

hehe - i wondered where u went spiro. my bet was "in jail", but i guess this is close enough.

welcome back sir!

Posted by EvolveToAnarchism on 2011-07-16 19:21:39

Wow! Pythrr makes a joke that is ACTUALLY funny. Calling me a spammer and a troll, that will go down in the history books as your first joke funny enough to make me laugh out loud. Congrats! All your failed attempts at humour have now been vindicated. Lets hope it doesn't take you as many spammy trollish attempts for your next success, for everyone's sake.

Posted by pythrr on 2011-07-16 19:31:00

love you too evo. i have no idea where your hate comes from.

Posted by EvolveToAnarchism on 2011-07-16 19:36:47

LOL You are on a roll. Two funny jokes. Me hate you? Your delusions are hilarious. Almost as hilarious as your stalkerish behaviour.

Posted by pythrr on 2011-07-16 19:44:38

um, ok. love and hugs.

good luck with the passive-aggressive thing.

Posted by Mr_Foulscumm on 2011-07-16 19:56:35

You guys and your crazy notions of being right. Cute :)

Posted by spiro on 2011-07-16 20:27:19

Pffythrr, sorry for my pause, you missed me so much.
I am working hard and i had not time to play and discuss with you about nothing.

Posted by pythrr on 2011-07-16 20:50:12

i did

i just can't sleep at night without the love of my cuddly bear spiro.

Posted by Colin on 2011-07-17 00:36:52

I've never thought of Evo as a troll - he's just passionate.

I give you the MANNERLY ART OF DISAGREEMENT (OR HOW AN INTP SEES DISCUSSION) - http://homepage.mac.com/bahlberg/iblog/B1386252977/C707866389/E1519845737/index.html

I've nothing to say that isn't said there, better.

Posted by Gromrilram on 2011-07-17 04:49:07

get over yourself. not aimed at anyone. including me.

Posted by EvolveToAnarchism on 2011-07-17 04:57:01

For those who called pythrr a spammer and a troll, I think the more accurate name would be stalker.

Colin, thanks for the link, I think it should be recommended reading for a lot of folk here on FUMBBL.

I attack a person's logic. I have strong values, but am fully willing to realize when we have come to a disagreement due to values, but when it comes to poor logic and hypocrisy, I can be relentless which some mistake as being vicious.

And for those who call that spamming or being a troll, we strongly disagree about what those terms mean. As would most dictionaries.

Posted by pythrr on 2011-07-17 08:03:52

oh, stalker. ok. whatever floats your boat evo.

Posted by paulhicks on 2011-07-17 13:52:37

pythrr, i have noticed what i percieve to be a tendancy for you to post what appear as flippant and usually unrelated one liners in threads recently. twice i have commented upon it. once when you did it to a noob asking a question where i pointed out that this could appear unfreindly and once in my own (silly and irrelevant) thread. The way i responded to the second was intended to be humourous but reading it back now it mealy comes accross as snotty and condesending on my part (though i still say my idea for fixing fouling was a good one).

i wont claim to know whether you do it to "spam or troll" because my psychic powers are almost as bad as my athletic abilities but i would say that it certainly seemed bad form to do it to that noob.
if you do do it as others have claimed because you find the thread boring surely it would be better to just ignore the thread altogether.

just my opinion. feel free to stalk, spam or troll anything i may post in the forums though ;P

Posted by pythrr on 2011-07-17 14:47:26

thanks Pauly.

I now has _permission_!

Wahahahaaaaa......

Yes.

Posted by paulhicks on 2011-07-17 15:12:04

wait.. i just realised i was trying to post nicely when theres no need!! my bad.. let me try again.

your posts and comments read like 95% of those posted on 4chan with and extra dose of "NOTICE MEH PLZZZ" added in.
They are the forum equivalent of "tagging" graffiti, when someone has no talent but still feels the need to scrawl their crap on every blank surface available.

Wahahahahaaaa etc

Posted by paulhicks on 2011-07-17 15:18:06

sorry that should have been "no talent and nothing to say"

Posted by pythrr on 2011-07-17 15:25:09

thx pauly. loves you too.

Posted by Gromrilram on 2011-07-17 15:43:16

/me munches popcorn

Posted by shadow46x2 on 2011-07-17 15:51:26

i'm glad you have at least one person who believes your rhetoric and pandering, evo....

Posted by Gromrilram on 2011-07-17 19:22:13

/me wonders wether this movie isnt a little too full of stars now... and if the plot will sufer from that... sometimes its just better to have a small group of entertainment heavyweights, so you can focuss on them

Posted by EvolveToAnarchism on 2011-07-17 19:52:48

shadow, if you actually cared to listen to those who have been driven away from the forums by its immoderate moderation, you'd know that there are LARGE numbers of people who feel the same way I do. If I thought, I was the only one who felt this way, I would gladly let the spammers, troll and hypocrites have their way. I just wish you could actually read my posts as if they were written by somebody else and then maybe you could see what I am actually typing rather than some fabricated bugbear.

Posted by Colin on 2011-07-17 21:42:27

Sad to see a moderator breaking a minimum 5 points of the Rules of Engagement on my prior link with a single post.

At the heart of this debate is the nature of trolling. My take on it is, it's sometimes misdirected passion over a particular viewpoint (I recall the rather boisterous debate over LRB5 which on occasion got personal), in which case the link I posted is helpful to cool tempers.

In other cases, as in this, it's purely to get a rise out of others. Essentially, a form of emotive vampirism, probably due to insecurity and/or other emotional issues on the part of the troll. I'll leave it to the psychologists to tell us precisely which ones.

Posted by EvolveToAnarchism on 2011-07-17 22:06:15

What to you do about immoderate moderation? I tried humour before, it didn't work. I tried contacting the admin, it didn't work. I tried moving to my blog, it didn't work. Looks like I may just stick to #CFFL and avoid the rest of the site as much as possible. I know many others have done something similar. Colin, got any other suggestions?

Posted by spiro on 2011-07-18 00:44:07

i repeat: trolling it's a relative determine, depend who is telling that LOL

Colin, for me you are a troll, stubborn troll and troll flatterer.
I have seen your discussion with Lizvis during match. You are as the flag on the wind, you just telling what some group of the people wants to hear.

Posted by paulhicks on 2011-07-18 01:11:28

colin... is... a troll?
lol seriously?
i cant think of many other coaches whos posts (though rare- another good reason hes not a troll) are so consistantly well thought and to the point. i dont know the guy but i do know hes done a lot for the site and comunity in general.
please link 1 forum post of colins that you believe provides evidence for your attack.

grom whats the score at this point?

Posted by shadow46x2 on 2011-07-18 02:33:02

colin, i find it humorous that you chastise someone like me, who is equally as passionate about his own convictions, for breaking your silly little points....

but yet you ignore the fact that evo acts in a much more passive aggressive, abusive and manipulative manner...

the only difference between evo, and myself..i don't hide the fact that i'm a jerk, and i'm up front about my abrasive personality, and don't hide it behind some made up veil of victimization and oppression...

Posted by paulhicks on 2011-07-18 02:55:25

i thought we'd established that you are a fractured and emotionaly damaged little boy? or havn't we got to that bit yet this time? ;P

anyway i'm getting confused now.. to many different arguements.. maybe we should form teams

Posted by EvolveToAnarchism on 2011-07-18 03:08:15

"the shadow knows" or so he imagines he does. There is a huge world of difference between how you post and how I post. The fact that you can't see that is incredible. I reserve my more forceful tone to those who bully others and by their behaviour give tacit approval to a more aggressive tone. You on the other hand don't seem to care who your victims are.

And that brings me to the most important difference between you and me. You are an admin with special rights and responsibilities. You are supposed to be enforcing a code of conduct that you arguably (too be generous) don't follow yourself. And that is the definition of hypocrisy. Which by its very nature is worthy of being pointed out and highlighted with great frequency until your behaviour or postion changes.

If you can't handle being called out on your rank hypocrisy, I suggest you change your behaviour. Until then, I'll gladly accept your misguided labels as passive aggressive, abusive and manipulative. As they are quite humourous coming from the likes of you.

Posted by Gromrilram on 2011-07-18 04:00:03

/me is fairly certain this is on the brink of becoming too complex, but so far its working. we had one main storyline, that was basically a struggle between 2 main actors, with the other just supporting that, BUT the latest development is making anything else just look like it was nothing but a build up. the "star" (can we even name him so? it is the character that was introduced to us first in this movie, so i guess... it is the main actor) has found his final oponent, so everything is set for the grand finale.

/me gets some nachos... need calories to get through these extra long blockbusters... the art of maing 90minute movies is getting lost... but thats a whole different story.

Posted by pythrr on 2011-07-18 09:29:00

hehe, loving spiro's input. :)

chill everyone - no one is getting paid here.

Posted by Jeffro on 2011-07-18 18:05:21

I love how authoritarian you've gotten, evo... It's like watching a chocolate bunny melt in the sun. You want to eat it so much to put it out of it's misery, but it's just too cool to watch melt and become what it does not want to be. :)

Posted by spiro on 2011-07-18 18:07:09

When i am reading these comments then i think that most of the people on fumbbl are the trolls, DOT

Posted by paulhicks on 2011-07-18 22:19:31

what? were not gettin paid? no fair.

Spiro, so now the majority of fumbbl posters are trolls? 0_0
dude im still waiting for you to find a single post by Colin to prove your attack on him. now you have to prove its for hundreds of other people too. you're making a lot of work for yourself here.
by the way LOVED when you called colin a stubborn troll when you are the one who hast repearedly started posts on controversial topics and then refused (often rudely) to even read or aknowledge any posts where people usually politely trt to explain why youre wrong.
as for your second comment about colin being nice to lizvis this is just a nother example of how you seem to think its wrong to be nice to other people when playing a game with them... hence your endless whining and "pfff"ing at your opponents during your matches and reports.

Spiro people disagreeing with you doesnt make them all trolls. theres just a slim chance it might mean you're occasionaly wrong about things yourself. :)
but obviously im just saying that to troll ya

Posted by paulhicks on 2011-07-18 22:21:18

bty.. if this was in the forums it woulda been locked about 40 comments ago and we would have been denied all these lulz :D

Posted by EvolveToAnarchism on 2011-07-18 23:08:14

paul, this is the very reason why I "responded" to Grod's comments here.

Posted by Blaer on 2011-07-19 19:01:27

Thanks for all the disenchanting prattle, I'll advise the Frieda following me that the forums are at best an "at your own risk" endeavour... T_T

Posted by Blaer on 2011-07-19 19:04:03

Friends*... thanks iPhone... I can look like a fool well enough without assistance...

Posted by Gromrilram on 2011-07-19 19:54:11

/me thought that the ending of this movie kind of let the rest down... but than again, i was distracted by the Frieda

Posted by paulhicks on 2011-07-20 00:10:43

blaer, prattle is what we do best :)
but even if this was a forum it certainly wouldn't be representative of the forums in general.

Grom 52 comments worth or argueing wasn't too bad. maybe for the sequal we should make it more of a "return of the king" affair and suddenly throw in some extra factions at the last minute. anyone got layla or bigmacs numbers?

Posted by paulhicks on 2011-07-20 00:13:14

also spiro rather "phoned in " his performance. not the classic diatribe we're used to. i think the lack of rolling eyes confused him ;P

Posted by spiro on 2011-07-24 20:10:55

paulhicks, you did not understand me completely, it was simple sarcasm.

Posted by paulhicks on 2011-07-25 03:55:21

what was sarcasm? when you called colin a troll? when you called the majority of fumbbl'ers trolls? or when you got bitter for being a troll yourself?

Spiro i think you're great n would miss you if you get perma banned. Your posts bring me much joy but you have 0% credibility here.