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2024-10-11 09:18:24
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Nobs OP - RRR Stats Update - Infinite Cycle 24/7
This is an update to my previous blog post about RRR stats, done in celebration of Joost's Imperial Nobility WIN in a nail-biting final against BEST NURGLE, which proves that NOBS OP and leaves only Gnomes as the one last Cinderella "Rumble Forlorn".
Like SideshowBob and Rijssiej I'm trying to win Royal Rookie Rumbles with all races, skipping the ones I already won. Well, Bob says BB16 wins don't count and that's why he'll still be doing Lizards well into the 2030s. You should trust your elders, so there's some top shelf stuff lined up for y'all. I don't go in cycles or any established order, more like MerryZ does it. Sometimes I put in multiples (many multiples!) of the same (Halfling, Orcs, Vampires) and other times I chuck teams in by decreasing winrate order. So I'm just going to list the best attempts:
Lost first round:
Lost second round:
Lost semi-finals:
Lost final:
Won:
BB16 Winners:
Some barely used rosters up there, and some perennial nightmares such as Goblin, too. Which I definitely should go back to.
On to the update!
Here's the breakdown of winning teams, by roster:
... and by attendance numbers:
... and by winrate, too:
The "big 4" are always up there. Or should we say, "big 6"? OWA and Snotling consolidated their success rate with a few recent exploits, but as their attendance numbers grow, they should be expected to eventually sink again. Or should they?
Norse are weird, insofar as a lot of people seems to believe they have a solid chance, but their success rate is about half that of the staple teams. Will the roster change affect the stats in the long run? Probably not. Amazons seem to have done fine, even after their change.
Chorfs have risen a bit since last time due to a string of wins by some of the regulars, and they'll be affected by a big roster change with a strong chance of sinking them back down eventually, even though they were so close to joining the original four "safe bets".
Vampires raised our hopes for a while, we even spotted cdassak trying his hand at them, but apart from Undress_'s double win, they haven't delivered on their promises.
Of course, I'm tallying the wins between the 606 completed Rumbles leaving out the 5 ongoing ones (why doesn't that add up to 616? check my previous post!) and those results might shift the numbers for the lower half of the table, but not that much, so I'm not bothering to try and account for that.
For completeness, here's the updated wins tally:
And the updated unique roster wins tally:
Showing 16 because that's the best number. It ties with the latest one being RRR616, too.
Who will be the first to get Gnomes? Will they have a winrate of 12.5% when the 8th of them to enter wins? Are chorfs dead? Is BEST NURGLE the answer we weren't looking for? Most likely no to all of them.
So what are you waiting for? Come join! Beat Bob on kicks! Scale the tables! Bring back Storr!
Like SideshowBob and Rijssiej I'm trying to win Royal Rookie Rumbles with all races, skipping the ones I already won. Well, Bob says BB16 wins don't count and that's why he'll still be doing Lizards well into the 2030s. You should trust your elders, so there's some top shelf stuff lined up for y'all. I don't go in cycles or any established order, more like MerryZ does it. Sometimes I put in multiples (many multiples!) of the same (Halfling, Orcs, Vampires) and other times I chuck teams in by decreasing winrate order. So I'm just going to list the best attempts:
Lost first round:
Lost second round:
Lost semi-finals:
Lost final:
Won:
BB16 Winners:
Some barely used rosters up there, and some perennial nightmares such as Goblin, too. Which I definitely should go back to.
On to the update!
Here's the breakdown of winning teams, by roster:
| Roster | Wins | Attendance | Winrate |
|---|---|---|---|
| Orc | 91 | 928 | 9,81% |
| Shambling Undead | 74 | 662 | 11,18% |
| Dwarf | 73 | 792 | 9,22% |
| Amazon | 50 | 531 | 9,42% |
| Chaos Dwarf | 39 | 475 | 8,21% |
| Norse | 28 | 568 | 4,93% |
| Human | 27 | 524 | 5,15% |
| Lizardmen | 24 | 394 | 6,09% |
| Tomb KIngs | 24 | 378 | 6,35% |
| Skaven | 23 | 525 | 4,38% |
| Necromantic Horror | 22 | 397 | 5,54% |
| Wood Elf | 20 | 448 | 4,46% |
| Dark Elf | 18 | 512 | 3,52% |
| Chaos Chosen | 14 | 292 | 4,79% |
| Elven Union | 12 | 235 | 5,11% |
| Snotling | 9 | 99 | 9,09% |
| Ogre | 8 | 190 | 4,21% |
| Underworld Denizens | 8 | 172 | 4,65% |
| Chaos Renegade | 8 | 174 | 4,60% |
| High Elf | 7 | 297 | 2,36% |
| Vampire | 6 | 215 | 2,79% |
| Old World Alliance | 6 | 65 | 9,23% |
| Nurgle | 5 | 219 | 2,28% |
| Black Orc | 3 | 72 | 4,17% |
| Goblin | 2 | 195 | 1,03% |
| Slann | 2 | 116 | 1,72% |
| Halfling | 1 | 236 | 0,42% |
| Khorne | 1 | 63 | 1,59% |
| Imperial Nobility | 1 | 75 | 1,33% |
| Gnome | 0 | 7 | 0,00% |
... and by attendance numbers:
| Roster | Wins | Attendance | Winrate |
|---|---|---|---|
| Orc | 91 | 928 | 9,81% |
| Dwarf | 73 | 792 | 9,22% |
| Shambling Undead | 74 | 662 | 11,18% |
| Norse | 28 | 568 | 4,93% |
| Amazon | 50 | 531 | 9,42% |
| Skaven | 23 | 525 | 4,38% |
| Human | 27 | 524 | 5,15% |
| Dark Elf | 18 | 512 | 3,52% |
| Chaos Dwarf | 39 | 475 | 8,21% |
| Wood Elf | 20 | 448 | 4,46% |
| Necromantic Horror | 22 | 397 | 5,54% |
| Lizardmen | 24 | 394 | 6,09% |
| Tomb KIngs | 24 | 378 | 6,35% |
| High Elf | 7 | 297 | 2,36% |
| Chaos Chosen | 14 | 292 | 4,79% |
| Halfling | 1 | 236 | 0,42% |
| Elven Union | 12 | 235 | 5,11% |
| Nurgle | 5 | 219 | 2,28% |
| Vampire | 6 | 215 | 2,79% |
| Goblin | 2 | 195 | 1,03% |
| Ogre | 8 | 190 | 4,21% |
| Chaos Renegade | 8 | 174 | 4,60% |
| Underworld Denizens | 8 | 172 | 4,65% |
| Slann | 2 | 116 | 1,72% |
| Snotling | 9 | 99 | 9,09% |
| Imperial Nobility | 1 | 75 | 1,33% |
| Black Orc | 3 | 72 | 4,17% |
| Old World Alliance | 6 | 65 | 9,23% |
| Khorne | 1 | 63 | 1,59% |
| Gnome | 0 | 7 | 0,00% |
... and by winrate, too:
| Roster | Wins | Attendance | Winrate |
|---|---|---|---|
| Shambling Undead | 74 | 662 | 11,18% |
| Orc | 91 | 928 | 9,81% |
| Amazon | 50 | 531 | 9,42% |
| Old World Alliance | 6 | 65 | 9,23% |
| Dwarf | 73 | 792 | 9,22% |
| Snotling | 9 | 99 | 9,09% |
| Chaos Dwarf | 39 | 475 | 8,21% |
| Tomb KIngs | 24 | 378 | 6,35% |
| Lizardmen | 24 | 394 | 6,09% |
| Necromantic Horror | 22 | 397 | 5,54% |
| Human | 27 | 524 | 5,15% |
| Elven Union | 12 | 235 | 5,11% |
| Norse | 28 | 568 | 4,93% |
| Chaos Chosen | 14 | 292 | 4,79% |
| Underworld Denizens | 8 | 172 | 4,65% |
| Chaos Renegade | 8 | 174 | 4,60% |
| Wood Elf | 20 | 448 | 4,46% |
| Skaven | 23 | 525 | 4,38% |
| Ogre | 8 | 190 | 4,21% |
| Black Orc | 3 | 72 | 4,17% |
| Dark Elf | 18 | 512 | 3,52% |
| Vampire | 6 | 215 | 2,79% |
| High Elf | 7 | 297 | 2,36% |
| Nurgle | 5 | 219 | 2,28% |
| Slann | 2 | 116 | 1,72% |
| Khorne | 1 | 63 | 1,59% |
| Imperial Nobility | 1 | 75 | 1,33% |
| Goblin | 2 | 195 | 1,03% |
| Halfling | 1 | 236 | 0,42% |
| Gnome | 0 | 7 | 0,00% |
The "big 4" are always up there. Or should we say, "big 6"? OWA and Snotling consolidated their success rate with a few recent exploits, but as their attendance numbers grow, they should be expected to eventually sink again. Or should they?
Norse are weird, insofar as a lot of people seems to believe they have a solid chance, but their success rate is about half that of the staple teams. Will the roster change affect the stats in the long run? Probably not. Amazons seem to have done fine, even after their change.
Chorfs have risen a bit since last time due to a string of wins by some of the regulars, and they'll be affected by a big roster change with a strong chance of sinking them back down eventually, even though they were so close to joining the original four "safe bets".
Vampires raised our hopes for a while, we even spotted cdassak trying his hand at them, but apart from Undress_'s double win, they haven't delivered on their promises.
Of course, I'm tallying the wins between the 606 completed Rumbles leaving out the 5 ongoing ones (why doesn't that add up to 616? check my previous post!) and those results might shift the numbers for the lower half of the table, but not that much, so I'm not bothering to try and account for that.
For completeness, here's the updated wins tally:
| Coach | Rosters |
|---|---|
| geggster | 25 |
| Java | 19 |
| cdassak | 18 |
| Storr | 18 |
| Brainsaw | 15 |
| PurpleChest | 13 |
| vaclav | 13 |
| Flix | 12 |
| Jeguan | 11 |
| SideshowBob | 11 |
| BattleLore | 10 |
| MerryZ | 10 |
| Rijssiej | 9 |
| Tricktickler | 8 |
| Cloggy | 7 |
| Melmoth | 7 |
And the updated unique roster wins tally:
| Coach | Rosters |
|---|---|
| geggster | 21 |
| cdassak | 18 |
| Java | 18 |
| Storr | 16 |
| vaclav | 13 |
| Flix | 12 |
| PurpleChest | 11 |
| Jeguan | 10 |
| MerryZ | 10 |
| Rijssiej | 9 |
| SideshowBob | 8 |
| Brainsaw | 7 |
| Melmoth | 7 |
| Tricktickler | 6 |
| BooAhl | 6 |
| Thoriin | 6 |
Showing 16 because that's the best number. It ties with the latest one being RRR616, too.
Who will be the first to get Gnomes? Will they have a winrate of 12.5% when the 8th of them to enter wins? Are chorfs dead? Is BEST NURGLE the answer we weren't looking for? Most likely no to all of them.
So what are you waiting for? Come join! Beat Bob on kicks! Scale the tables! Bring back Storr!
Royal Rookie Rumbles
If you are interested in joining, read here: Rules
and then apply here: Application
Only teams from the Competitive division with 0 games played will be accepted.
Every coach is welcome but the "Rookie" in Royal Rookie Rumble refers to the teams, not necessarily to the coaches!
INDUCING STAR PLAYERS IS DISALLOWED IN RRR GAMES!
Prizes: Winner gets 100,000 gold pieces and a record on the coach profile.
and then apply here: Application
Only teams from the Competitive division with 0 games played will be accepted.
Every coach is welcome but the "Rookie" in Royal Rookie Rumble refers to the teams, not necessarily to the coaches!
INDUCING STAR PLAYERS IS DISALLOWED IN RRR GAMES!
Prizes: Winner gets 100,000 gold pieces and a record on the coach profile.
Comments
Posted by SideshowBob on 2024-10-11 09:35:31
Excellent post!
@valen - pat attention to the line in red text near the bottom. Squirrels be stars too ;)
@valen - pat attention to the line in red text near the bottom. Squirrels be stars too ;)
Posted by MerryZ on 2024-10-11 09:50:49
How many snotling wins after stars banned ;) ?
Go bob, go almost win ;p
Go bob, go almost win ;p
Posted by Rawlf on 2024-10-11 11:28:10
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Love the numbers crunching! And congrats on your fine performance, Java. Impressive!
Love the numbers crunching! And congrats on your fine performance, Java. Impressive!
Posted by Joost on 2024-10-11 21:22:50
Thanks for the shoot out! I’m thinking halflings next :)
Posted by Joost on 2024-10-11 21:23:55
Oh, and I am curious about snotlings after the no stars rule too
Posted by Java on 2024-10-12 20:15:51
They seem like a challenge but you can squeeze 16+2d3 players, 4 big guys, wizard, bribes and bombs in 1mil so theres a chance!
Posted by Java on 2024-10-12 20:17:07
@Rawlf thanks, a long way to go to reach Mount Geggster... If the CR friends can have Mount Goo we'll have out own killer peak!