Posted by erased000034 on 2022-03-28 19:37:06
Ah now is clear... this happened to me one time: I started a match accepted by my opponent, but he taken too much to start the match and after 5 minutes i decided to find another match. But after this my eye fall down on my summary page ( I keep two screen open at the same time, one on the gamefinder another in my fumbbl page) and I discovered to have a scheduled match! Luckyly my opponent was still waiting me and i did not start a second one: so no big pain for both
Thanks a lot Christer to have corrected this bug in so elegant way :-)
BTW....
Any update on the BlackBox launch with BB2020 ruleset?
Posted by erased000047 on 2022-03-29 01:27:03
any update on redrafting, blackbox or converting ranked? those are all important issues.
Posted by DrClaes on 2022-03-29 05:56:00
Thanks Christer for the information on the problem solving. I have had it happen a handful of times over the past couple of years.
Posted by naytsyrhc on 2022-03-29 11:50:16
Thx for clarification. Stateless Clients are a hell to deal with. F5 (Page-Reload) also is a nightmare. AJAX and other technologies have been introduced to overcome theses flaws but still can't solve everything. Just from reading, your solution sound very elegant indeed. Hope it will really fix it.
But there is one question that's coming up for me every time I see the gamefinder: allthough it is nice to have some kind of choice, I think it's slightly unfair in the aspect of pairings. I often get offers for teams I really don't see to try it (e.g. my Goblins get offers from Dwarfs and Chaos Dwarfs with equal TV, higher TV Elves or similar - that would allow me to induce some stars or weapons or even bribes) will never offer a game. Same applies to "spinning" with Elves. Tackle-Heavy-Teams offer a a game easily, "normal" teams try to avoid me.
So, even if this is probably a different topic: wouldn't it be better to randomly choose the opponent from all spinning teams? Match-Making could be done according to matches played, maybe even coach-experience could be used for matching or something like that?
Posted by MattDakka on 2022-03-29 13:58:51
@naytsyrhc:
BB rosters have paper-rock-scissors elements, so being able to choose/turn down offers is a way to play teams like Amazons being sure never to face Dwarfs and Chaos Dwarfs, if a coach really wants, thus skewing their expected win rate. Tier 3 teams requiring some inducements can be avoided, while if they could be activated with a certain TV gap (for example 100 TV) they could get them.
The rosters are supposed to be played against a wide array of opponents (or have some inducements, in case of tier 3 teams) so yes, I agree with you that a random scheduler (not totally random, though), would be the best way to arrange games in a supposed Competitive division.
When you can choose (or your opponent has to accept a match offer) there can't be true competition, instead, the competition shifts from the in-game to the off-game dimension, i.e. you have to know which are the advantageous match-ups, rather than being actually good at playing the game on the pitch. Moreover, if you are a Legend, even if you offer a fair game on paper, many opponents will not accept it. This is discriminatory and against the fair competition. Everybody should be able to compete in a Competitive division. If a Legend has more difficulty in order to find a game he can't play as many games as the other coaches in the same division.