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2023-05-27 23:06:09
32 votes, rating 5.4
32 votes, rating 5.4
Rules update regarding streaming
So, as most of you have noticed by now, there's been an update to the rules page. This one concerns streaming and has updated a policy that has been in place (without really being enforced) for a very long time.
Basically, the old rule was that you could not interact with spectators in any way in order to prevent "back-seating". This was extended to live-stream chat as well.
A streamer is by design practically forced to interact with their chat, and having people suggest things is out of their control. Without effectively banning streaming, it's not really fair to have someone be accountable for things that are out of their control.
To me, streaming is a very important avenue for bringing people to the site, and getting people excited to play here. Given that we have zero budget for ad campaigns or anything like that, I think it's important to allow streaming to be as seamless as possible, and also be in line with basically any other modern game.
So the rules have been updated to explicitly address streaming and that given how impossible it would be to stop live-chat to give strategy advice, that is also explicitly mentioned. The streamer simply can not avoid it, and more often than not the overall stress of paying attention and responding to chat is a net negative for the level of play (which is why you typically see people have other streamers cover their important games).
I realize this isn't going to be universally popular, so feel free to rate this blog however you wish :)
Basically, the old rule was that you could not interact with spectators in any way in order to prevent "back-seating". This was extended to live-stream chat as well.
A streamer is by design practically forced to interact with their chat, and having people suggest things is out of their control. Without effectively banning streaming, it's not really fair to have someone be accountable for things that are out of their control.
To me, streaming is a very important avenue for bringing people to the site, and getting people excited to play here. Given that we have zero budget for ad campaigns or anything like that, I think it's important to allow streaming to be as seamless as possible, and also be in line with basically any other modern game.
So the rules have been updated to explicitly address streaming and that given how impossible it would be to stop live-chat to give strategy advice, that is also explicitly mentioned. The streamer simply can not avoid it, and more often than not the overall stress of paying attention and responding to chat is a net negative for the level of play (which is why you typically see people have other streamers cover their important games).
I realize this isn't going to be universally popular, so feel free to rate this blog however you wish :)
Comments
Posted by Nelphine on 2023-05-27 23:24:43
Since you're updating the site rules, you may want to update the divisions. It still lists both academy and stunty leeg.
Posted by JamesLangley on 2023-05-28 00:47:26
Given that this allows "backseat coaching" for stream chat, would you ever consider making the regular Spectator chat viewable by the playing coaches (with an option to turn it off by one of the playing coaches if so desired)? Would probably be a lot more controversial, but it seems like a similar sort of thing.
Posted by ArrestedDevelopment on 2023-05-28 01:53:09
I have been watching blood bowl streams for over 8 years now, and I have never, ever in all that time, even once, seen a viewer give a useful piece of in-game, actionable advice to a streamer during a live game.
People really don't do it. The ruling is more likely simply there to prevent a streamer getting into bother should a unicorn (or a troll) appear and it actually happen unsolicited.
People really don't do it. The ruling is more likely simply there to prevent a streamer getting into bother should a unicorn (or a troll) appear and it actually happen unsolicited.
Posted by badger89 on 2023-05-28 09:18:56
Maybe a icon on coach home page so other coach can see if there a steamer.
Posted by RDaneel on 2023-05-28 20:38:28
there is currently a forum discussion where I am explaining better what I think.. I try to summarize the following
- Streaming is incentivized by Fumbbl which is perfectly clear. But at this point I would like to see the list of who is streaming published. Right now there is a debate about who is playing a game NOT being able to go watch his game on TwitchTV (because the other coach is publicly disclosing his game tactics). However, there is no way to avoid this because the stream is public. So if a coach decides to live stream the game he is playing in to publicly share his tactics (and maybe even get suggestions from others) everyone has the right to access his channel and the person he is playing against has the right to see it as well. This will obviously create a lot of confusion and personally knowing that I might be playing not against one coach but against three-four coaches at once (the streamer plus maybe a few friends connected to his channel who help him out) well... it is something I am still trying to digest
- Streaming is incentivized by Fumbbl which is perfectly clear. But at this point I would like to see the list of who is streaming published. Right now there is a debate about who is playing a game NOT being able to go watch his game on TwitchTV (because the other coach is publicly disclosing his game tactics). However, there is no way to avoid this because the stream is public. So if a coach decides to live stream the game he is playing in to publicly share his tactics (and maybe even get suggestions from others) everyone has the right to access his channel and the person he is playing against has the right to see it as well. This will obviously create a lot of confusion and personally knowing that I might be playing not against one coach but against three-four coaches at once (the streamer plus maybe a few friends connected to his channel who help him out) well... it is something I am still trying to digest
Posted by DonTomaso on 2023-05-28 22:29:30
As said above, rarely, if ever, is good advice seen in a chat.
And, as also mentioned, someone might be playing 3-4 coaches. The more cooks, the worse the soup. The advice will probably be equally bad, since the advice received will probably vary from coach to coach...
But if this is really a problem? Nah, not in my world...
And, as also mentioned, someone might be playing 3-4 coaches. The more cooks, the worse the soup. The advice will probably be equally bad, since the advice received will probably vary from coach to coach...
But if this is really a problem? Nah, not in my world...