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2013-04-13 02:11:33
21 votes, rating 3.2
21 votes, rating 3.2
What should I do?
I just can't make my mind up on the legend skill for this freakish orc Aztec, the latest off the 'Saws production line.
Almost all the options have their own merit!
Sure Hands
Well, he's scoring a lot. That usually involves either picking up the ball or avoiding the strip.
Guard
This seems to have a few supporters. Of course guard is nice, but I just feel guard is better suited to, I dunno, all other non-special players.
Grab
I'm leaning towards grab. Nasty side steppers will be less of a threat, for one. Somebody said to give grab to black orcs, but they're not mobile and take years to skill up.
Strip Ball
I don't have one on the team. I wish I had developed this guy differently. I just would prefer to match strip ball to wrestle.
Fend
Seems like pixel hugging.
Juggernaut
I feel I can give this to somebody else.
Stand Firm
Makes near-side plays less precarious. Somebody said it would make him die sooner. That scares me away from it!
Pass Block
Another I'm giving strong consideration to.
Frenzy
Yes and no. Yes but no. 2 hits for the price of one. Getting sucked in to bad spots.
Piling On
Would be lame.
What would make this guy the cream of the crop?
P.S. I didn't make a forum post as I didn't want a poll, but just a discussion.
And just to reward those that read it all: I have a wolf that became a super star in 11 games. Anybody got that beat? For comparison, vindaloo was a super star after 14 and legend at 29 games.
Almost all the options have their own merit!
Sure Hands
Well, he's scoring a lot. That usually involves either picking up the ball or avoiding the strip.
Guard
This seems to have a few supporters. Of course guard is nice, but I just feel guard is better suited to, I dunno, all other non-special players.
Grab
I'm leaning towards grab. Nasty side steppers will be less of a threat, for one. Somebody said to give grab to black orcs, but they're not mobile and take years to skill up.
Strip Ball
I don't have one on the team. I wish I had developed this guy differently. I just would prefer to match strip ball to wrestle.
Fend
Seems like pixel hugging.
Juggernaut
I feel I can give this to somebody else.
Stand Firm
Makes near-side plays less precarious. Somebody said it would make him die sooner. That scares me away from it!
Pass Block
Another I'm giving strong consideration to.
Frenzy
Yes and no. Yes but no. 2 hits for the price of one. Getting sucked in to bad spots.
Piling On
Would be lame.
What would make this guy the cream of the crop?
P.S. I didn't make a forum post as I didn't want a poll, but just a discussion.
And just to reward those that read it all: I have a wolf that became a super star in 11 games. Anybody got that beat? For comparison, vindaloo was a super star after 14 and legend at 29 games.
Comments
Posted by xnoelx on 2013-04-13 02:13:20
So no Fend because that would be pixel-hugging, but no Stand Firm because he might die? Er...
Posted by Dan-Da-Man on 2013-04-13 02:14:00
rated 1
Posted by Chainsaw on 2013-04-13 02:15:27
@xnoelx: Hah, you spotted that. It was meant to be ironic.
@DanDM: I really hurt your feelings with that 1, eh Dan?
@DanDM: I really hurt your feelings with that 1, eh Dan?
Posted by Dan-Da-Man on 2013-04-13 02:15:41
i havent rated it just say that for a laugh :) x x x
Posted by Chainsaw on 2013-04-13 02:18:06
;D
Posted by p4m on 2013-04-13 02:22:14
i think guard is the way to go - you have that nasty lino for ball actions but lack supporting fire...
grab is nice on a player that isnt as mobile as a blitzer to keep players next to you...
strip ball sound like a waste with st4 and MB tackle
fend is nice ... but well not as awesome as some might think - better in combination with SS
JN is cool on a player with frenzy
SF... oh well... good but nice with guard ;)
PB - kidding right? ;)
Frenzy... though choice... but right now you dont have guard... so no
PO allready twice in the team...
grab is nice on a player that isnt as mobile as a blitzer to keep players next to you...
strip ball sound like a waste with st4 and MB tackle
fend is nice ... but well not as awesome as some might think - better in combination with SS
JN is cool on a player with frenzy
SF... oh well... good but nice with guard ;)
PB - kidding right? ;)
Frenzy... though choice... but right now you dont have guard... so no
PO allready twice in the team...
Posted by Chainsaw on 2013-04-13 02:37:12
Re: guard.
Often this is the blitzing player. I'd probably have to adjust from that if I took guard.
Of course, blitzes and grab are not the best combination.
Often this is the blitzing player. I'd probably have to adjust from that if I took guard.
Of course, blitzes and grab are not the best combination.
Posted by oryx on 2013-04-13 02:47:37
grab still cancels ss on a blitz... Threatens, on the sideline, and moderately to extremely useful at other times.
Since he's str4 blodge tackle, he's less likely to be knocked down or dodged away from than some. Because he doesn't SF or SS, they can push him and your grab is more or less negated.
Seems like he's missing a skill to make grab really shine, to me.
I vote sure hands. A str4 blodging sure hands is a nightmare for elves, and could easily win the game for you. He's also a good candidate on defense for picking up the ball in a tz or two, and probably holding on to it.
Since he's str4 blodge tackle, he's less likely to be knocked down or dodged away from than some. Because he doesn't SF or SS, they can push him and your grab is more or less negated.
Seems like he's missing a skill to make grab really shine, to me.
I vote sure hands. A str4 blodging sure hands is a nightmare for elves, and could easily win the game for you. He's also a good candidate on defense for picking up the ball in a tz or two, and probably holding on to it.
Posted by baelnic on 2013-04-13 02:50:40
Too bad it wasn't doubles, this player screams HMP.
I joined a SMACK just for you, easy pickings for whomever gets me!
I joined a SMACK just for you, easy pickings for whomever gets me!
Posted by Jeffro on 2013-04-13 02:55:22
I'd say sure hands or strip ball... he's a ball carrier with MB and tackle. That says "Ball Hawk" to me. AG4 means a sure handed pickup is only foiled by snakes or weather, and AG4 means a strip has a good chance at recovery. Toss up between the two.
Posted by lawman on 2013-04-13 03:26:23
Piling on is what I would choose. He's a mobile st4 tackler. Besides, you already have two sure hand guys. Frenzy is OK since he's your only tackler. Fend is OK since it could come in handy every once in awhile. Standfirm will help on defense since he's a tackler. If you were dead set against PO I'd probably take standfirm.
Posted by Elliott_the_Lame on 2013-04-13 03:44:46
Pass Block. Why? Because it's FUN...
Posted by awambawamb on 2013-04-13 03:50:59
Sure Hands.
dat ork'z gonna show those nasty pointy-earz how iz dunn.
dat ork'z gonna show those nasty pointy-earz how iz dunn.
Posted by pythrr on 2013-04-13 04:10:12
SH
gotta be
gotta be
Posted by licker on 2013-04-13 04:11:12
What a lovely little orc.
SH is a solid choice, if he is your primary ball carrier, but remember it only helps him to pick it up, not take a hand off/pass, so depending on how you use him (I'd guess you use the AG5 guy for most ball handling duties until it's time to score) the mileage from it may not be all that.
SF is one of my favorite annoying skills. Not only does it help him on the sideline, it just makes him a real wrench in any plans the opponent may have of moving your line around, assuming he's in that line somewhere. You can pack 4 bobs an ogre and this guy, all with some smattering of guard (eventually, you have some new bobs afterall). That's a lot of strength for most teams to move easily, and if you have him in the right spot, he can soak a couple blocks and still be standing right where you wanted him, and on top of that, he's ready to just punch right back.
On the other hand you may not like to deploy him like that. In which case guard may be the unsexy, but most useful choice.
SH is a solid choice, if he is your primary ball carrier, but remember it only helps him to pick it up, not take a hand off/pass, so depending on how you use him (I'd guess you use the AG5 guy for most ball handling duties until it's time to score) the mileage from it may not be all that.
SF is one of my favorite annoying skills. Not only does it help him on the sideline, it just makes him a real wrench in any plans the opponent may have of moving your line around, assuming he's in that line somewhere. You can pack 4 bobs an ogre and this guy, all with some smattering of guard (eventually, you have some new bobs afterall). That's a lot of strength for most teams to move easily, and if you have him in the right spot, he can soak a couple blocks and still be standing right where you wanted him, and on top of that, he's ready to just punch right back.
On the other hand you may not like to deploy him like that. In which case guard may be the unsexy, but most useful choice.
Posted by huff on 2013-04-13 04:20:53
Tuff one.. I was gonna say sure hands before looking at the team, now I don't know what I would say since you have a thrower and a 5 AG sure hands guy. I'm guessing this guy is leading the charge with blitzes and maybe the guy you hand off/pass to in a tight spot (or just any spot really seeing that its 2 2+'s for a pass).
I couldn't say what I would take but what I wouldn't take would be SH or fend.
I couldn't say what I would take but what I wouldn't take would be SH or fend.
Posted by RC on 2013-04-13 08:48:08
Give him jugger and use him to blitz wrestlers and crush them.
Posted by coombz on 2013-04-13 09:29:49
sure hands
with SH, Dodge and +Agi he's a great ball retriever from the scrum, as well as a carrier
with SH, Dodge and +Agi he's a great ball retriever from the scrum, as well as a carrier
Posted by Garion on 2013-04-13 09:42:05
Sure Hands or Guard.
Posted by Tremendous on 2013-04-13 10:16:05
I'd say Strip Ball. You don't have it and no one in your team is being developed as a Wrackler.
Posted by LucaAnt on 2013-04-13 11:52:53
retire him
Posted by Arktoris on 2013-04-13 16:31:08
Fend
Posted by MRnobody on 2013-04-13 16:48:58
Leap. Make the most of his agility, jump over the enemy lines, kill all mens and score.
Posted by PigStar-69 on 2013-04-13 20:40:19
guard is my choice he can assist then blitz he for me would be complete with guard. pilling on is dumb frenzy is ok stand firm is a lil bit of a waste. juggernaut is pointless without frenzy and fend is for nobs :-)
I could see the sense in sure hands but still not as good as guard and grab is no good cos for me he would be blitzing a lot.
I could see the sense in sure hands but still not as good as guard and grab is no good cos for me he would be blitzing a lot.