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2017-02-01 13:18:54
10 votes, rating 1.8
10 votes, rating 1.8
Thoughts on PO
X-posted from here (as it will quickly get lost in that megathread).
The problems with PO stemmed from it not being ST dependent (sorry, a goblin with PO should not be as effective as an ogre with it, and ogres should be less vulnerable than goblins), not being avoidable, and not having enough downside.
Non-stunned players should be able to make an AG roll to avoid the PO.
PO modifiers should be based on ST-difference.
Piling on player should also make an armour roll and be stunned if it passes.
The team RR for PO is total nonsense and a massive cop out by the rule makers.
The problems with PO stemmed from it not being ST dependent (sorry, a goblin with PO should not be as effective as an ogre with it, and ogres should be less vulnerable than goblins), not being avoidable, and not having enough downside.
Non-stunned players should be able to make an AG roll to avoid the PO.
PO modifiers should be based on ST-difference.
Piling on player should also make an armour roll and be stunned if it passes.
The team RR for PO is total nonsense and a massive cop out by the rule makers.
Comments
Posted by The_Carthaginian on 2017-02-01 13:37:28
"(sorry, a goblin with PO should not be as effective as an ogre with it, and ogres should be less vulnerable than goblins)"
Without wanting to get into the debate about PO, a goblin with PO is not as effective as an ogre with PO because you have to throw blocks for it to work.
Similarly, an ogre is less vulnerable because it has higher strength (and so is less likely to be knocked down) and has higher armour.
Without wanting to get into the debate about PO, a goblin with PO is not as effective as an ogre with PO because you have to throw blocks for it to work.
Similarly, an ogre is less vulnerable because it has higher strength (and so is less likely to be knocked down) and has higher armour.
Posted by kwèk on 2017-02-01 15:19:40
Do we really want to touch this subject?
Like... why do you roll for interception BEFORE you pass the ball.
It doesn't make sense.
...ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
Like... why do you roll for interception BEFORE you pass the ball.
It doesn't make sense.
...ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
Posted by m0gw41 on 2017-02-01 16:02:12
Admin clean up crews to aisle 1!
Containment breach!
Cpomb discussion happening outside of restricted area!
Containment breach!
Cpomb discussion happening outside of restricted area!
Posted by Endzone on 2017-02-01 16:09:26
Endor isn't a planet, it is a moon...
Posted by meatball20 on 2017-02-01 16:15:50
Isn't it a good thing if PO comments get lost?
Posted by dashergeaux on 2017-02-01 16:20:34
Why only stunned if the PO player fails his armor check? If you can trip and die in an open field gfi, you should die recklessly jumping on someone.
A goblin is smaller, but his PO is landing with precision and skill. I argue it should be AG based (ok, that's dumb just like basing it on Str)
I do like your AG roll to avoid and make the player using PO risk injury as well. There, now you've got yourself an improvement.
But none of this matters. The rules are what they are and were what they were.
A goblin is smaller, but his PO is landing with precision and skill. I argue it should be AG based (ok, that's dumb just like basing it on Str)
I do like your AG roll to avoid and make the player using PO risk injury as well. There, now you've got yourself an improvement.
But none of this matters. The rules are what they are and were what they were.
Posted by PainState on 2017-02-01 16:31:16
"But none of this matters. The rules are what they are and were what they were."
Well, that is true inless you play in League action and they have enabled some of the CPOMB nerfs. It only matters if you want the CPOMB nerfs enabled in R/B play.
Posted by Arktoris on 2017-02-01 16:49:50
make sneaky git more effective...PO problem solved.