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2014-11-11 18:52:15
15 votes, rating 4.2
15 votes, rating 4.2
I have had it with all this "pimping" going on.
Ok, I have finally blown my stack about this meme that is running around that teams are "pimping" their teams for majors.
Now I acknowledge that some coaches leading up to a major in the Ranked scene do pay closer attention to match up, especially when it comes to oponeents who could, lets say, decimate your team.
Because we know when coaches are not in "pimping" mode they are green lighting every stinking match that poses the threat of team decimation, they do, they hunger for it.
Also this assumption that NUFFLE allows "pimping" to happen. Come on now, fess up. How many of you thought that a no MB elf team was just a nice juicy cherry, easy way to score some serious SPP. After the match you have 2 RIPS and 2 SI-perms?
I can see it now. Coaches looking at the current games going on. They are screaming to the heavens that this team and that team and that coach are "pimping" and "riding dirty". But they never check the post match out. They go on oblivious to the carnage that the team "pimping" just took.
Now who can tell me the list of teams that "pimped" their way into winning a major? Who? Extraordinary Brotherhood do not count, they did not pimp, they exploited which are two different things.
So who else? Come on give me some teams that "pimped" out and won a major? I can give you about 4 who lucked out and won a major.
Yeah, that was what I thought. The list is so short you have to really put some effort into just making the list.
The ultimate Pimpers/cheaters were the Cabal of German Cheaters back in the day and the funny thing was that over 80% of the Cabal lost in the FC before the ring was found out. In fact their ring leader went into melt down mode by the epic Spiro level conspiracy dicing that booted him out of the FC.
You see in the end this idea of Pimping is just another tact to make the moral stand against picking in general. The foundation of the argument that Ranked stinks because guys can pick to "pimp" and win every stinking major. While at the same time ignoring the fact that you can abuse the scheduler over in Box. In the big picture "pimping" a team for a major does no good. It does not help your team out in the long run. IT IS ALL A MYTH!!!!
Now I acknowledge that some coaches leading up to a major in the Ranked scene do pay closer attention to match up, especially when it comes to oponeents who could, lets say, decimate your team.
Because we know when coaches are not in "pimping" mode they are green lighting every stinking match that poses the threat of team decimation, they do, they hunger for it.
Also this assumption that NUFFLE allows "pimping" to happen. Come on now, fess up. How many of you thought that a no MB elf team was just a nice juicy cherry, easy way to score some serious SPP. After the match you have 2 RIPS and 2 SI-perms?
I can see it now. Coaches looking at the current games going on. They are screaming to the heavens that this team and that team and that coach are "pimping" and "riding dirty". But they never check the post match out. They go on oblivious to the carnage that the team "pimping" just took.
Now who can tell me the list of teams that "pimped" their way into winning a major? Who? Extraordinary Brotherhood do not count, they did not pimp, they exploited which are two different things.
So who else? Come on give me some teams that "pimped" out and won a major? I can give you about 4 who lucked out and won a major.
Yeah, that was what I thought. The list is so short you have to really put some effort into just making the list.
The ultimate Pimpers/cheaters were the Cabal of German Cheaters back in the day and the funny thing was that over 80% of the Cabal lost in the FC before the ring was found out. In fact their ring leader went into melt down mode by the epic Spiro level conspiracy dicing that booted him out of the FC.
You see in the end this idea of Pimping is just another tact to make the moral stand against picking in general. The foundation of the argument that Ranked stinks because guys can pick to "pimp" and win every stinking major. While at the same time ignoring the fact that you can abuse the scheduler over in Box. In the big picture "pimping" a team for a major does no good. It does not help your team out in the long run. IT IS ALL A MYTH!!!!
Comments
Posted by pythrr on 2014-11-11 19:03:36
filthy pimpies
Posted by Chainsaw on 2014-11-11 19:40:35
Y'know what we do with pimples?
We squeeze them! Pussy....
We squeeze them! Pussy....
Posted by JimmyFantastic on 2014-11-11 19:58:15
Pimpers gonna pimp
Posted by keggiemckill on 2014-11-11 20:08:18
It's hard out there for Pimple.
Posted by happygrue on 2014-11-11 20:21:46
I was going to disagree with this, but it turns out that that both times I've made it to the semifinals (the best I've done) were with teams that I had not been trying to get ready. This first time was with mah (box) Battlefrogs, and only the second time I'd every thrown a team into a tournament (and maybe I would have even gone on but the gentleman timed be out after telling me not to rush on a turn when right before I tried to score), and the second was with my DE after I had just done an ELF season where I played every race. They were in good shape after playing everyone, so I threw them in and made it to the semis (again almost past if not for #%@&$...).
I have not done as well when I have really tried hard to "be ready". Though in fairness to my methods, I have never had the time or inclination to get "as ready" as some folks try to be.
I have not done as well when I have really tried hard to "be ready". Though in fairness to my methods, I have never had the time or inclination to get "as ready" as some folks try to be.
Posted by Rabe on 2014-11-11 20:48:35
I freely admit I have prepared the Monsters for the FC. Played 15 games mostly against teams that had a relatively low FF (as I needed money badly) and little destructive potential. It worked out, sort of (only one death of an already crippled player and another crippling that would normally lead to retirement). I'm not proud how I did it, but _that_ I did it at all - it wasn't easy.
However, amongst those matches were some against legendary coaches and many were lost. And if the players count wouldn't have been the only thing I cared about, I had to declare failure, as with the retirements that should happen now, I'd be back to 11 players and thereby certainly not "Major ready". And seriously: How many games can one play without suffering some tragic loss that leads to a major setback?
Well, it's the Monsters I'm talking about. Another, more competitive team could have done the same of course (albeit maybe wouldn't have found the same amount of relatively "easy" opponents). But I don't think one can prepare a team over a long period of time directly for a Major. You can only play (and pick) a lot and decide at some point that the team is ready now. It's only easier in Ranked because you can avoid killers - but you can't avoid death!
However, amongst those matches were some against legendary coaches and many were lost. And if the players count wouldn't have been the only thing I cared about, I had to declare failure, as with the retirements that should happen now, I'd be back to 11 players and thereby certainly not "Major ready". And seriously: How many games can one play without suffering some tragic loss that leads to a major setback?
Well, it's the Monsters I'm talking about. Another, more competitive team could have done the same of course (albeit maybe wouldn't have found the same amount of relatively "easy" opponents). But I don't think one can prepare a team over a long period of time directly for a Major. You can only play (and pick) a lot and decide at some point that the team is ready now. It's only easier in Ranked because you can avoid killers - but you can't avoid death!
Posted by koadah on 2014-11-11 20:51:27
LOL. Did someone call PainState a team pimper? ;)
Posted by PaddyMick on 2014-11-11 22:29:51
I guess one of the problems with picking is you never get any practice against teams that could actually beat you.
Posted by keggiemckill on 2014-11-11 22:43:03
HA HA HA +1 paddy
Posted by Dunenzed on 2014-11-11 22:53:58
I pimp my teams for a major in the box. It's really easy. You just keep playing that "one extra game" to grab that extra skill or recover that MNG guy until you've lost 400TV and have at least two brand new positionals on 0spp. Then you're ready. I didn't do that this FC and was out in the first round as a result. Shame on me.
Posted by the_Sage on 2014-11-11 22:57:17
Although I'm just a pixelhugging picker in general, rather than specifically for majors, this did result in TV 2300 woodies which were too high in TV to find games (at which point they bought a tree, a catcher, and some rerolls).
So yes, Royal Cookie Crumble would be an example of a pimped team, I'd say (and I do recall you cheering them on at the time as well, gloriously bloated bunch of LRB4 elves and all that).
So yes, Royal Cookie Crumble would be an example of a pimped team, I'd say (and I do recall you cheering them on at the time as well, gloriously bloated bunch of LRB4 elves and all that).
Posted by Jeffro on 2014-11-12 01:02:41
Pimpin' ain't ea-zay...
Posted by pythrr on 2014-11-12 03:52:37
It's hard out there...